Collaboration with theists?

[Secularone]

That wing of anti-theism does exist (to a great deal in fact). But how 'visible' it is... that is a harder question to answer. I think many atheists are anti-theistical... but that many of us are quite cordial/calm in our 'dislike?-disdain?'... but there certainly is a much 'angrier?' wing

Here again, I'd like specifics.

Just exactly how is it that being an angry atheist violates some theists freedom of thought, belief or free exercise of religion?

Like Pippy, you seem to think that if an atheist despises religion to the extreme and engages in outreach activism to educate people, that equates to trying to obstruct someones free exercise rights. I want to know what logic you, Pippy and others use to arrive at such conclusions?

Exactly what has any atheist done that you feel trampled on the legitimate rights of theists?

If you can't cite specifics of actual incidents, then do you really think it's fair to continue to nurture this unsupported indictment?

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I find it odd you have to call me a lair SO. I didn't say you were _doing_ anything extremist. I said your ideas were extremist and would lead to extremism. Completely different. I'm sure Hitler would've used similar coercion, comparing good people with great causes - like we wouldn't 100% support those ideals.

But fr0d0, here's what you wrote in post #30... the post where you clearly characterized me as an extremist.

What you're doing is masking your extremism. That's where fundamentalism begins, with the respectable face. That for now you settle in a 'reasonable' camp does not dilute the strength of your message. You seem discontent that people, not extremists, call you on your extremism. That's because what you're promoting is disgusting and couldn't take off if everyone knew your real motives.

Sorry, fr0d0, but referring to "my extremism" is the equivalent to calling me an extremist. The reason I find you to be a liar is that you lie. You can't even keep the story straight from one post to the next. Here's more...

I don't seek to silence you. You continue to use that despite the fact I've said the opposite. Again: I fully support anyone's right to extreme views.

Wow! Again you imply I'm an extremist by referring to my "extreme views." But there's more...

What you're doing is like the polar opposite of Fred Phelps' followers actions. I personally abhor Fred Phelps' beliefs, and I would protest against them. You are not like me though, you hate just like he does.

Well, fr0d0, you really sound like you are full of hate. And comparing me with an extremist like Fred Phelps is nothing more than an attempt to disenfranchise me, an attempt to discourage others from entertaining what I have to say. In other words, to silence my voice.

Actually, in some respects, I am glad that you are so vicious in your posts to me. You undermine your own credibility. There is nothing reasonable about your approach and any objective person can see that.

And exactly what is that message that you despise so much, fr0d0? The truth about how you and other religious nuts care nothing about freedom, equality and social justice? Is that what's bothering you, fr0d0? Well, I've not seen you championing those principals now have I?

You complain about how I misrepresent you but all you do is misrepresent everything, from beginning to end.

If you really are such a great guy then how about posting reasonable explanations of your ideals, thoughts and beliefs, instead of your worthless one-liners and demagogic tripe.

I and every other atheist on this forum would like to hear what you have to say about your faith and how you got to where you are. But getting you to have an honest and/or reasonable conversation is next to impossible. Maybe you're trying to hide the details of your faith so that nobody can question them. I don't know. I just know you don't give straight answers or reasonable answers.

So, until you do clean up your act, things are not likely to get better between the two of us.