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God is above conventional reason
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm)apophenia Wrote: That means absolutely none of your shit holds any water. The bible (maybe that's God's idea of a funny story, or a Zen koan? You don't know, because you can't know the mind of God, you can't even make sense of him), Jesus Christ (perhaps God just came down to put his paw prints on Mary Magdalene's hot bawdy, and this was the way he thought of accomplishing that goal; it worked for Zeus, why not for Yahweh?), and the traditions of the Holy Roman Catholic church (do they have reasoning above that of other men? No, they do not). You've just exercised the nuclear option, babe, and blown up your own God in the process.

How do you reach this conclusion? We can interpet the Bible, we can understand that there is a God. But when we try to put man-made techniques to try to proof the existence of God is when he is above our reasoning.

I think I'm being misunderstood. This reasoning mostly applies in the "proof/evidence" area.

(February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: BTW, you are contradicting yourself badly here. You say that the bible is gods way of showing us who he is because it is at our level yet you say that we cannot know who god is through the bible because it has been interpreted by man. Which is it?

It's both. Why couldn't it be both? The Bible, has we both have mentioned, has been heavily revised over the years. Is it not possible that this was the Word of God, until it was revised as man?

I acknowledge that the Bible today is not the Bible from thousands of years ago, but I also acknowledge the main points made by the Bible are still the same. But you are right, but are wrong about me having to choose between those two options.

(February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm)Zone Wrote: This isn't the kind of debate anyone on either side would be able to "win". But the real question is why is the Bible the Word of God and not the Quran? How do you tell the difference? What about the Book of Mormon?

That is a good point, and I am unable to answer that question right now.
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water

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God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by frankiej - February 13, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by rexbeccarox - February 13, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WitchSabrina - February 13, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Jackalope - February 13, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 13, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 5:58 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Psykhronic - February 13, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 5:23 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Minimalist - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:20 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Darkstar - February 13, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:42 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Simon Moon - February 13, 2013 at 9:15 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 18, 2013 at 7:34 am
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 2:55 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 5:53 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:22 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 7:29 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:39 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:48 pm
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