woman rights in Islam

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Dotard, the more you try to explain yourself, the more you offend me. When women wear clothing that may show skin, it is nowhere near the same as walking around in ass-less chaps.

Woah there... what was that? How is a woman (or man) 'showing skin' any different than a man (or woman) wearing 'assless chaps'? How can varying clothing choice (or lack of such) offend you?

You're trying desperately to justify your position and now you're resorting to absurdity. I understand the premise you are trying to assert. I disagree with it, it's wrong on many levels, as I have explained, and especially when it comes to the facts about rape. Women are not raped for being attractive and wearing revealing clothes. This is a well-documented fact, of which I provided links.

You provided links, which I countered with this analogy here:

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It isn't so much to avoid rape... as to be targeted less for it (If I were going to commit a rape, [and I had my choice of whom] I can assure you that I would choose to rape the sexiest and most vulnerable looking person I could quickly find [Not only would it be more logical to rape the most vulnerable... it would be most 'fun?' to rape the sexy]). Sexual attractiveness is not the cause of rape... but it sure as hell can help select the target.

Compare that to money. If I were going to steal money from someone, (and I had my choice of whom) I can assure you that I would choose to steal from the richest and most vulnerable looking person I could quickly find [Not only would it be more logical to steal from the most vulnerable... it would also be most 'worthwhile?' to steal from the rich]. Richness is not the cause of theft... but it sure as hell can help select the target.

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It is true that being sexy is not the cause of rape (Hence how non-human animals are sometimes raped, which is quite related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia a linky for you)... but it is an great part of the choice for whom to rape. It is true that riches are not the cause for theft (Here is a link to prove this: http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/crime/story/868944.html )... but that riches are an great part of the choice of whom to steal from.

Therefore your analogy completely and utterly fails. It does not consider the facts of rape, and only further demeans women when you suggest they should cover up lest they be leered at or raped.

Our analogies were quite brilliant so far as I see. They consider the agenda of the rapist/thief... rather than the reason for the rapist/thief to want to do such. I still don't see how being realistic is being demeaning...