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God is above conventional reason
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 14, 2013 at 10:22 am)AtlasS Wrote: I agree with you.
One problem is that the concept of science itself is not understood probably by many people. Science is the studying of a natural phenomena, its core but not its reason or why it behaves like that.

The atom is the best example. Until this day nobody would answer you -scientifically- why the atom exists, why it behaves like that. Nobody would also tell you why the human heart beats, why that electricity is there.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/113/23/2775.full

Ahh, the old god of the gaps argument: we don't know yet, therefore god. That's nice and flawed.

Quote:It is why I believe that the issue of god is something that a human must solve with his/her own mind without any kind of prior feelings or emotions about the subject.

I have difficulty envisioning a person like that. Not all of us can be total amnesiacs, after all. Tongue

Quote:When I came back to my religion, I remember starting to read by myself without any external intervention. Eventually it would all go to your logic, what you want and what you think about the world.

Except that reality is independent of what you personally want, and what you think. Sometimes those things can match up, but not always.

Quote:It is above conventional reason. And I'm a person who believes in science in any other field. But in this one pricelessly : science is not the best approach to prove god.

I can't help but wonder if you'd be saying that if science could prove what you want it to prove.
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God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by frankiej - February 13, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by rexbeccarox - February 13, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WitchSabrina - February 13, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Jackalope - February 13, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 13, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Psykhronic - February 13, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 5:23 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Minimalist - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Darkstar - February 13, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Simon Moon - February 13, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by paulpablo - February 13, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Simon Moon - February 13, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Drich - February 13, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Esquilax - February 14, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Creed of Heresy - February 14, 2013 at 7:33 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Esquilax - February 14, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Darkstar - February 14, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 14, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 14, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by popeyespappy - February 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 14, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 16, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 16, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 17, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by rexbeccarox - February 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 17, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by paulpablo - February 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 17, 2013 at 4:52 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 17, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 18, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Jackalope - February 18, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 18, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2013 at 7:35 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 24, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 18, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 18, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 18, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Nobody - February 24, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Atothetheist - February 24, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 26, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Whateverist - February 26, 2013 at 1:35 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Gabriel Syme - March 20, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by downbeatplumb - March 20, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Tonus - March 20, 2013 at 3:10 pm

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