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God is above conventional reason
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 14, 2013 at 10:36 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ahh, the old god of the gaps argument: we don't know yet, therefore god. That's nice and flawed.

It's a well known argument & it's not used by the religious folks only. It's called the leap of faith, you reach a certain level where you don't know the answer, you would also think that searching for the solution would take a very long time, without a guarantee that the solution might be discovered. Note that I'm not improvising this to prove my point, I use this method in writing my programs, without it it's impossible to continue any job I started, the only way to make sure is to reach the end of the road.

It's then when you go though the leap of faith to continue your work. It's nothing more than marking a goal, some people choose god, others choose nature, it's the same.

Quote:I have difficulty envisioning a person like that. Not all of us can be total amnesiacs, after all. Tongue

I did it, and still doing it until now : ) it's what you might call "unbiased approach". It is why I apologized after I did a bad thing for members in here. It is also why I think seriously about anything I read here, including atheist arguments. Without being "amnesiac", you will be lost eventually.

Quote:Except that reality is independent of what you personally want, and what you think. Sometimes those things can match up, but not always.

Religion is not what I want. It's a heavy burden on my back. I don't like the concept of hell, I don't like the concept of slavery to any deity.

Quote:I can't help but wonder if you'd be saying that if science could prove what you want it to prove.

Evolution goes against my believe. Still I study it seriously, I even tried to link it with my religion. Even though parts of it contradict religion, I never denied it.

Believe me it's not personal Smile I have nothing to gain from defending Islam. I just say what I think is the most logical thing to my mind .
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God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by frankiej - February 13, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by rexbeccarox - February 13, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WitchSabrina - February 13, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Jackalope - February 13, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 13, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Psykhronic - February 13, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 5:23 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Minimalist - February 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Darkstar - February 13, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 13, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Simon Moon - February 13, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by paulpablo - February 13, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 13, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Simon Moon - February 13, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 13, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Drich - February 13, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Esquilax - February 14, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Creed of Heresy - February 14, 2013 at 7:33 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Esquilax - February 14, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Darkstar - February 14, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 14, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 14, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by popeyespappy - February 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 14, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 16, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Kayenneh - February 16, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 17, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by rexbeccarox - February 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 17, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by paulpablo - February 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 17, 2013 at 4:52 pm
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RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 17, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Angrboda - February 18, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Jackalope - February 18, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 18, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2013 at 7:35 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Finn - February 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 18, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 24, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Ryantology - February 18, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 18, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Cyberman - February 18, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by catfish - February 18, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Question Mark - February 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by CleanShavenJesus - February 18, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Nobody - February 24, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Atothetheist - February 24, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by ThomM - February 26, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Whateverist - February 26, 2013 at 1:35 am
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Gabriel Syme - March 20, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by downbeatplumb - March 20, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: God is above conventional reason - by Tonus - March 20, 2013 at 3:10 pm

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