Before Christianity... before Judaism..

[Brian37]

Brian, Minimalist

The Hajj is very similar to the journey of Abraham when he reached Mecca, you see that actually does make sense. It's more like us being in Abraham's shoes, to feel what he felt. That's something that I really admire.

It's more than a monument or a ritual.

Another thing is the simplicity. Men,women, leaders, professors, garbage collectors, presidents, all stand in the same spot with the same very simple outfit, defying their differences & just standing by one side, the rich the poor.

That's something really amazing guys. It's not a symbol of superstition : )

Yes it is, as and as superstitious as buying a Ouija Board from Toys R Us. Do you really believe walking around a cube gives people magical communication with an invisible being?

How is that any different than building a monument to the sun and then praying to the sun? The Egyptians did that for 3,000 years but you don't believe the sun is a god, do you?

Do you think singing at the Mormon Tabernacle makes magic underwear work?

Having a tradition and building a monument to that tradition does not give that tradition credibility. It merely means people like believing it. Japanese people go to Buddhist temples and swing prayer wheels. Those monuments are very pretty, but you are not a Buddhist.

Chinese people put dragons at their doorsteps to "keep the evil spirits" out. So because billions of Chinese people do that that means you should too, using your logic.

Mecca existing merely means that culture built something around a tradition. It does not make Allah real. And Mohammed was just a man, he did not have any cosmic cell phone talking to a fictional being.

Otherwise I could build a monument to Harry Potter and because it is pretty that makes flying around on brooms true.

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Brian, Minimalist

The Hajj is very similar to the journey of Abraham when he reached Mecca, you see that actually does make sense. It's more like us being in Abraham's shoes, to feel what he felt. That's something that I really admire.

It's more than a monument or a ritual.

Another thing is the simplicity. Men,women, leaders, professors, garbage collectors, presidents, all stand in the same spot with the same very simple outfit, defying their differences & just standing by one side, the rich the poor.

That's something really amazing guys. It's not a symbol of superstition : )

Catholics can be both republican and democrat. Jews can be both republican and democrat. They can also span class and status and education. But when they go into their churches or visit their monuments, you don't believe in their god.

"Its pretty and it brings people together"

Yea, so does sports. Soccer brings fans together and a CEO can sit next to a truck driver and they both can be at the same stadium rooting for the same team.

It looks pretty, but hardly amazing. The Roman ruins are amazing but I don't believe in Apollo. The Pyramids are amazing but I don't believe the sun is a god. The Mayan Temples are impressive, but funny how that doomsday crap didn't pan out.