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Before Christianity... before Judaism..
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RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism..
(February 14, 2013 at 10:44 pm)AtlasS Wrote:
(February 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm)catfish Wrote: What is creepier is that you knew about that clip...
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The "related videos" bar can lead to some very dark corners in youtube ...

(February 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm)catfish Wrote: Anyways, I see it as idolatry, unless you have another explanation?
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Matter in fact ; no. The idea of idolatry is rejected in general by Islam, but you see, another contradiction is that Muslims started to glorify these symbols too much. But in the same time, this is no ordinary symbol ; this is the prophet himself. I think idolatry in this case is, well, understood. Because muslims don't have any relics, the Prophet's grave is almost the only thing that is considered as a holly relic.

I don't like idolatry, but the grave is sealed shut because many attempts were made to exhume the grave, according to historical writings the crusades had tried to exhume it too -According to Islamic sources-.

That's why many muslims are sensitive about it.

If our species is still around in a relatively same degree as it is now, say 5,000 years from now, a future archeologist will dig up those graves, or a construction company will build over it or uncover it by mistake. Much like that king in Europe recently got unearthed, much like many of the Egyptian mummies have been disturbed for whatever reason, by theft or archeology.

While I certainly have sympathy for monuments to the dead, because humans do honor their dead. I do not think we need to pretend that we are immortal.

If I were to be buried, which I am not, I am donating my body to science. But if I were to be buried, I would not be able to care if my grave were disturbed. The protection of my grave would be for the living, not me.

And if I was buried, I most certainly would not mind in the future if a scientist wanted to dig me up and check my remains out.

(February 15, 2013 at 6:36 pm)catfish Wrote: Just stop, you are not making any sense in regards to what I typed and what you said...
Your fucking "point" was to point out bullying or some stupid shit about how evidence was supposed to go...
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So? You have a problem with evidence? Or are facts only when they agree with your wishes? Because if facts only are supposed back up your personal whims, then that line at the cosmic DMV is quite long, you'd have to get in line and take a number, most of the 7 billion on this planet are in that line making all sorts of claims.

I would think when humans have competing claims they use a universal setting to test those claims. But if you want to waste your time in line at the cosmic DMV, I think it is going to be a long wait for you and not worth your effort.
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Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 8, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 8, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by junkyardboy - February 18, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 18, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by junkyardboy - February 18, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 18, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by junkyardboy - February 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 8, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Confused Ape - February 8, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 8, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 8, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 8, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 9, 2013 at 4:48 am
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 9, 2013 at 6:29 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 9, 2013 at 6:41 am
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 9, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 9, 2013 at 6:48 am
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 9, 2013 at 6:52 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 9, 2013 at 7:05 am
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 9, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 9, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 9, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Angrboda - February 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 9, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 9, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 9, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 9, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 9, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 10, 2013 at 3:09 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 12, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 12, 2013 at 9:19 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 12, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 13, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 13, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 13, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 13, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 14, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 14, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 14, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 14, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 14, 2013 at 10:10 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 14, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 14, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 14, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by LastPoet - February 14, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 14, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 15, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Brian37 - February 18, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Re: RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by fr0d0 - February 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 17, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 18, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 18, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by John V - February 18, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by junkyardboy - February 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by RichardP - February 25, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by junkyardboy - February 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Confused Ape - February 18, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by EGross - February 18, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Confused Ape - February 18, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by EGross - February 18, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by EGross - February 18, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 18, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by EGross - February 19, 2013 at 4:07 am
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 19, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by EGross - February 19, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by Minimalist - February 19, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Before Christianity... before Judaism.. - by EGross - February 20, 2013 at 3:14 am

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