(February 22, 2013 at 1:31 am)ronedee Wrote: I said: "CONFIRMED"....and by atheistic doctor(s) (more than 2) actually rushing there to disprove God!
What I meant by anecdotal was that you did not personally speak to these 2 doctors, and sometimes these stories get reported with details that are lelft out or modified.
But let's say that somebody went into a state of mind, and they believed, and like countless others, partook of the magic waters where they have a wall of crutched hanging on the side where people left them and went running home.
And lets say that the doctors said that they didn't have an answer anymore than someone who spontaneously gets healed from some disease outside of those waters. They did not, one would hope, apply it to a supernatural being nor to the mystical properties of the water. Based on the details available to them, the were unable to provide an answer. They problably said that "we don't know", and the religious person says "God did it, praise the lord!". There is a distinct different in the application of reason here.
My ex-wife got into this program that says that your picture/photo is a reflection of your soul, so send them a picture of yourself, and for $2500 they will put it in an electromagnetic resonance generator to balance your internal elements to make you healthier. They even provided testomonials from people who would attest to the curing powers of having their picture magnitized. And there are people who do get better after spending the $2500 (one of the various reasons we divorced!). Why? Short of having all of the details of their before-and-after, all we are left with are speculations. Maybe God did it through the machine and sent her magic energy to make her feal better. Or maybe it was just her body doing what it can do.
I spent a few years learning magic. While I know the techniques, my patter was always forced. I am not a good performer. But I can go to a magic show and see the trick, and the problem of knowing the trick is that it just isn't as entertaining anymore. The kids in the audience are mezmerized. And some of the adults who watch who have no background in it know that it's a trick, but they just can't figure it out. Some of their ideas as to how it works ("I'll bet he used cold fire") were silly. But they know in their hearts that it isn't real magic, while the kids can sit there and believe that the lady did disappear.
But you are right, being like one of the kids, believing in the magic, is a more entertaining way to go. As to how the magic worked, I don't know.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders