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what being apart from the law means.
RE: what being apart from the law means.
(February 27, 2013 at 9:41 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Such a loose argument cuts both ways; you can lead a religious person to reasons why they're irrational, but you can't make them accept those reasons.
I didn't mean that it what a convincing proof. I just thought it was a clever formulation. Personally, I thinks it applies to any particular set of beliefs. What I mean is this. An informed person can make a the case for certain facts, but an ignorant person can still choose not to be convinced. What Drich did was make the old proverb even more interesting. Not only does the ignorant person choose not to be convinced he is actively hostile against anyone that goes against his assessment.

What I notice is that Drich presents his case respectfully and supports his arguements to the best of his understanding. Whether he is right or wrong is besides the point. For all his effort, he gets maligned, insulted and his claims are mocked. He doesn't stoop to that level. Point is a good many of the nihilists here are not just unconvinced. They are openly hostile to anyone who believes in God and they reason from that hate.
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what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 18, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 18, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 18, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 19, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by John V - February 19, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 19, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Minimalist - February 19, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 19, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by EGross - February 20, 2013 at 6:04 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 20, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cato - February 20, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by EGross - February 20, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 20, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cinjin - February 20, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Gilgamesh - February 22, 2013 at 11:26 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 20, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 21, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 21, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 21, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 22, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ben Davis - February 22, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 22, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 23, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 7:49 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 22, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 22, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 22, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 23, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 24, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 25, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cato - February 25, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Anomalocaris - February 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Anomalocaris - February 25, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 25, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 23, 2013 at 1:40 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 23, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 23, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 24, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by 5thHorseman - February 23, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2013 at 1:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 24, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cinjin - February 24, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 25, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by ThomM - February 26, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cato - February 27, 2013 at 12:48 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 25, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 25, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 26, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 26, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 26, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 27, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - March 1, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 27, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 28, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 26, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 27, 2013 at 12:15 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 12:30 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 1:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 9:39 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Anomalocaris - February 27, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 7:07 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by genkaus - February 27, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by genkaus - February 27, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 27, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 28, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 28, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 28, 2013 at 2:37 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 12:17 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 1:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Bad Wolf - August 23, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Endo - August 23, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - March 1, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Losty - August 23, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Minimalist - August 23, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Whateverist - August 23, 2014 at 8:47 pm

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