RE: what being apart from the law means.
March 1, 2013 at 3:16 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2013 at 3:42 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(March 1, 2013 at 2:43 am)Esquilax Wrote: I've noticed you do this a lot, labelling people based on your interpretation of their actions and then expecting that label to stick, but... no, just no.Actually, you're describing me, not Drich. I have no problem reading a person's post, pairing their ideas to a known philosophy, and referring to them as general advocates of that philosophy.
For example some atheists here express ideas that roughly conform to Objectivism, others with Eliminative Materialism, Functionalists, Nihilists, etc.
I see nothing wrong with that. Labeling actually saves quite a bit of time trying to figure out where people are coming from. My profile says Swedenbogian, but many here know that I strongly ascribe to neo-Platonism and Panentheism and less strongly with Process Theology and Property Dualism.
(March 1, 2013 at 2:55 pm)Drich Wrote: But, after working with people who do not know God I realized that true repentance is not possiable...level of conviction is not possiable unless the Holy Spirit convicts.I think this falls within the "Total Depravity" doctrine. I think that doctrine is incorrect. Throughout the Word people are called upon to repent. Take the example of John the Baptist. He called on people first to repent and then afterwards they received the Holy Spirit. The dove landed on Jesus after he was baptized, not before. Repentance is a step everyone has to make on their own of their own freewill and accord. If the Holy Spirit makes us convert that undermines our freewill.
Now if all you are saying is that people have to recognize their sins and be prepared to receive the Holy Spirit, that's fine. But we both know that the Spirit works through the Word, so reading the Bible and learning about what sin is should be enough for people to feel convicted if they take what it says seriously.