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An original argument against creationism
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RE: An original argument against creationism
(March 4, 2013 at 12:47 am)jap23 Wrote: Death comes through sin (Rom 6:23)- therefore Adam and Eve had to sin for this to be at all possible. Was this a mistake? No- God put the tree right in the middle of the garden next to the tree of life. Every time Adam and Eve ate from the tree of life, the tree of knowledge would've been tempting them ALL the time, for ALL their everlasting life... the fact was, they had to eat from the tree. It was God's plan.

Why couldn't he just have created them with knowledge of good and evil, and the ability to die, then? Why trick them and then phrase it all as a punishment after the fact? Why the elaborate and pointless ruse just so god could act all pissy?

Quote:It could have just been Adam and Eve just sitting there for eternity- doing the same things like robots with no gratitude towards God, and no comprehension of his goodness... but instead God decided to give them free choice, a chance to understanding his goodness for themselves, and to accept him for themselves.

If god didn't want the former setup, then why did he create it like that in the first place? What does an omnipotent creator being stand to gain from all this subterfuge and roundabout methods?

Quote:I believe in the whole bible... but I guess you're talking about the bible-verses where God 'sins', such as by the flood and hell?

No, I'm talking about the whole bible, since you could produce verses, and interpretations thereof, to justify pretty much anything you wanted to.

Quote: What we forget about the flood was that the world had 120 years to repent.

"Why you gotta make me hit you?" is it? Genocide was justified, because god gave everyone the time to obey his every whim, and that damnable free will he gave them made them sentient beings who don't have to do that? Seriously?
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An original argument against creationism - by Nerd - March 3, 2013 at 1:31 am
RE: An original argument against creationism - by Nerd - March 3, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: An original argument against creationism - by jap23 - March 3, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: An original argument against creationism - by Nerd - March 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: An original argument against creationism - by jap23 - March 4, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: An original argument against creationism - by Esquilax - March 4, 2013 at 2:51 am
RE: An original argument against creationism - by jap23 - March 4, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: An original argument against creationism - by genkaus - March 7, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: An original argument against creationism - by Ape - March 9, 2013 at 3:10 am
RE: An original argument against creationism - by smax - March 20, 2013 at 6:57 am

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