RE: "Science v Religion"
March 6, 2013 at 3:25 am
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2013 at 3:28 am by jap23.)
(March 5, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(March 5, 2013 at 8:21 am)jap23 Wrote: For example I believe in seven literal days in Gen 1; but does it contradict with evolution? No, because if we believe in God we could believe that he was able (and did, according the bible) make beasts, insects, fish and birds without being forced to first make a blob/slime/single cell, etc...
So, essentially your "open minded" take on evolution vs creation is "it's okay, because creationism is correct!"
Because... evolution is in direct contradiction with the genesis account, and it's been proven to be correct. But you've claimed here that evolution is compatible with the creation account, and then referred solely to the creation account?
You got that totally wrong. I'll put my quote up and highlight the bit you obviously overlooked:
(March 5, 2013 at 8:21 am)jap23 Wrote: For example I believe in seven literal days in Gen 1; but does it contradict with evolution? No, because if we believe in God we could believe that he was able (and did, according the bible) make beasts, insects, fish and birds without being forced to first make a blob/slime/single cell, etc...so when you say "So, essentially your 'open minded' take on evolution vs creation is 'it's okay, because creationism is correct'"... I say "no, that's not my 'open minded' take".
Quote:Because... evolution is in direct contradiction with the genesis account, and it's been proven to be correct. But you've claimed here that evolution is compatible with the creation account, and then referred solely to the creation account?Okay, i didn't think I had to (EDIT: i.e. refer to an evolutionary article), but here it is then: click here, and this is pretty much what I was taught anyway (I chose the link because it is answering our exact question in every-day language). So I'll put what I said in another way: the extrapolations are based on reasonable evidence- and can be traced back to common ancestors, etc... but IF (note the 'if') God exists, then whatever the extrapolations would give for the 6,000 year mark is the animals that God would have created. Do you see what I'm saying? God would have the created the exact animals that evolution would give for 6,000 years ago.
when you step off a cliff, you know you're going to fall; it's based on heaps of observed evidence. This is like evolution. you might ask the next question- 'where is the ground' (i.e. when did life start?). BUT Whether or not you reach terminal velocity before hit the ground- you know that gravity exists!!!
This is like what I was suggesting- just as we will probably fall when we step off a cliff, creatures (including us) are probably evolving. But just because you didn't reach terminal velocity doesn't mean that gravity has been disproved! Likewise, just because God started it all 6,000 years ago doesn't mean that he is contradictory with evolution!
I'm kinda busy and don't have much time for these forums, so if you respond to this post, don't expect me to reply immediately- but I will try to get back to you sometime.