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Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism
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RE: Ecstasy
(March 7, 2013 at 2:41 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: All the ravers I know experiment with psychedelics, hallucinogens.

Meth and Coke are STIMULANTS.

Why would a scene defined by psychs and hallucinogens dive into powerful stimulants?

The classes of drugs, experiences don't match with the characteristics of the subcultures.

The people start off with psychedelics and hallucinogens but the people who are really into it get into other stuff. There is a difference between going to a rave here and there and experimenting with acid or ecstasy and actually being a raver.

The people that go regularly usually are into other stuff. The rave scene is a gateway into hard drugs, if you want to get into more stuff, you will.

Lots of people that start off with ecstasy and acid end up with heroin and crack. I have seen it a lot of times.

A lot of think they are smart ravers with their pill testing kits and all that, but they will get into it just like everyone else. Doesn't matter how smart you are. Drugs are dangerous.

If you don't believe me, find people that are really into them and have been into them for 20 years. They are screwed up people. Alchohol too.

If you think you can choose to stay at an immature level of drug abuse and avoid a more mature level abuse, I would urge you to consider this, because I have counseled a lot of drug addicts and recovered from addiction myself: it is hard to control drug use. Even drugs that aren't consider physically addictive can have life controlling aspects to them.

If you know people who have been in the rave scene for more than a few years, ask them about it. Ask them what kind of drugs they have done. Maybe they are straightedge. If they are not, they will probably say, all of them. That would be true for most of the people I used to hang out with, and I didn't hang out with a bunch of guys from the ghetto, I hung out with people that were computer programmers, rich kids, geeks, people into music and stuff like that.

You get older you will see your friends start getting into hard drugs, no matter how firmly you promised your self you would stop at weed or mushrooms or whatever. And you will see crazy stuff, the deeper you go, the crazier it gets.

Why not just make a solemn resolution: "I am only going to drink" or "I am only going to smoke weed"? It is all bad for you. I think it makes a big difference though. When you start experimenting with that other crap, I know the effects it had on me, there is no limit.

You get deeper into the rave scene, you will see the coke, the serious dealers, the crazy stuff, prostitution, serious criminals who look like a bunch of computer geeks. The lifestyle is real. I have two friends of mine who are in jail now (one prison), one person is dead (not all from rave scene). I have seen violence, gun raids, stories of rapes, etc. It is there if you look for it, a really bad scene.

Just smoke weed and drink if you have to, that is my two cents. I wouldn't even do that, it is all bad.
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RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 6, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Rhizomorph13 - March 6, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 6, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 7, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 7, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 7, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Ecstasy - by paulpablo - March 13, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 3:08 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Creed of Heresy - March 7, 2013 at 3:23 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 4:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 7, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Ecstasy - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 7, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 7, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 8, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by paulpablo - March 9, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 9, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 9, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 9, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 10, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 4:50 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Faith No More - March 11, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 11, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 11, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 15, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 11, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 13, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 13, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Faith No More - March 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Angrboda - March 12, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by festive1 - March 12, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 12, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 12, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 12, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 9:02 pm

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