Quote:I can't say I find this terribly compelling, given that aspects of it still clash with the origin stories of all religious doctrines; since we can trace the genetic lineage of humanity back to proto-human animals that are vastly different from, say, the creation account of Adam and Eve in both the form of the initial life forms and the mechanism of their original creation, then christianity would have to relinquish its deathgrip on the concept of original sin, and all that follows on from that.The specific objective that led me to say that was to show that science doesn't contradict with the bible, as was the subject of the thread. By no means do I base my beliefs on the theory of pre-creation... no one should. All the bible says about this is:
I guess what I'm saying is, you can't get to any specific god from that concept, and in fact you'd be contradicting more than a few.
1) There was land, and there was water before God's creative acts in Gen 1
2) Angels were there before God's creative acts in Gen 1
so, my point was (without any excitement or imagination) we cannot make big claims about how science contradicts with God when the fact is, so little is said about it... so there are much better places to look for proof of or against God's existence. My point was merely to show they don't contradict. That is all.
As for the rest, I can't connect with your string of arguments...:
--I wasn't saying that Adam and Eve were proto-human animals at all!?
--I know I can't get to any specific God with that concept- I don't base my beliefs on gaps.
--I don't recall any clashes of doctrine (not that I believe in anyway; there are so many weird ideas out there, I'm not surprised you said that)
Quote: You'd be getting to a non denominational deistic god, in the end.Although I hope what I wrote previously explains why I don't believe this- I still would just like to say another thing:
"in the end" I just want to know the truth- and become absolutely sure of it! . I joined these forums to give atheism some decent consideration (I do pay attention to atheist sites, books and shows- but they haven't yet done the trick for me; I also have plenty of reasons for my current belief in the bible- but I'll only start threads when I get a decent amount of time).
I'm kinda busy and don't have much time for these forums, so if you respond to this post, don't expect me to reply immediately- but I will try to get back to you sometime.