(March 7, 2013 at 3:02 pm)mo66 Wrote: Do you or do you not agree with the decision that the Allied forces in WW2 fought an all-out war, offensive and defensive against Nazi Germany? If you do, congratulations, your views are in line with the Qur'an. If you don't agree, and are just a far-left pacifist, then shame on you.
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You know why the allied forces fought that war? Ever heard of Auschwitz? Dachau? Treblinka? Sobibor? Mauthausen?
or Pearl Harbor? The siege of Leningrad? The massacrer of colonial troops? The rape of Nanking?
You do know that the fashist regimes of Europe and Japan were "non democratic" and that the allies were - and that they were fighting for the survival of these ideals.
The Soviet Union was non-democratic but it was literaly fighting for it`s survival because Hitlers plan for the east included starving to death almoust the same amount of people who died in world war two in order to produce agricultural land for Germany?
Do you compare the quorans ideals with the ideals of those who sacrificed their lives on D-Day? In Leningrad? Iwo Jima? The Buldge? The Ardenes? and other places with those cries for war to defend Islam within the quoran?
well:
The national socialist movement found great support amongst muslims throughout the world, Nassa would support a pro nazi movement when Rommel closed in onto Egypt, and the "grand" mufti of Jerusalem is notorious for supporting nazi germany in due to his hatred of the Jews.
He met Hitler several times:
Recruted Muslims throughout the islamic world for Islamic Wehrmacht devisions:
And also managed to raise a muslim bosnian SS devision which would roam through the balcans and south eastern Europe hunting down jews:
War is justifyable, when the reasons to go to war are worth fighting for, as in the case of world war two, where humanity itself was under threat, or in the Balcan wars where genocide and ethnic cleansing had to be prevented, or in Mali where barabarism had to be stoped,
But your quoran is not a justification for a just war.
It has been used as a justification for flying planes into skyscrapers, hunting jews in eastern europe under the banner of the most babaric regime which has ever existed to blowing oneself up in a crowded marketplace in Tel Aviv.
The justifications for a justified war can be on a wide range, from protecting sovereignty, human rights, democracy and civilisation itself (WW2).
But religion cannot give the justifications needed for a justified war.