Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism

[John V]

It makes me laugh when people say things like this, I'm willing to bet just because you have said this you have never taken ecstasy.

True, it wasn't around when I was into drugs.

Natural happiness vs happiness on ecstasy is like having a day to day normal headache vs someone throwing a brick at your face.

I'd rather have a normal headache than a brick thrown at my face, so that was a pretty poorly planned analogy.

It's an outside stimulus that doesn't ask for your permission to change the way you think or how you feel, any normally wired human being enjoys life more on ecstasy than they do normal life, the trick is to be aware and to know this and to move on and to think that life is about more than just experiencing a supernatural degree of happiness 6 hours at a time because of a pill.

1. Life extends past the 6 hours. Apparently a significant number of people find the following days or even days to be far less enjoyable than normal life. You don't know if you'll be one of those people beforehand.

2. No one knows beforehand if they'll be able to pull off "the trick" and keep this perspective.

Although i agree with the statement in a sense of long term drug abuse is usually a sign that something is wrong in a persons life, and there is a thin line between use and abuse. But just as a generalized statement it doesn't really work.

Strictly as stated it is somewhat of a false dichotomy, but the principle is sound. You're spending money on something that provides at best transitory pleasure but can cause harm. You can alternatively save money, do something pleasurable if less intense, and depending on what you choose have something long-term to show for it and provide additional pleasure.