(March 9, 2013 at 6:32 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(March 8, 2013 at 8:41 pm)iameatingjam Wrote: If Christians don't get their morals from the bible (which I sure hope they don't) then where exactly do they get them from that would be any different from where an atheist gets theirs?Both get it from their conscience. Which raises the question of where the conscience comes from? Christians generally believe an innate sense of right and wrong is part of God's Provision. The bible serves as a anchor and guide to refining the conscience. It is not the source itself, just information about the ultimate source of morality.
That does not exclude the possibility that the conscience was formed by an evolutionary process. In naturalism the evolutionary selection process is blind and its results are amoral, hence conscience itself and reasoning based upon it would not be a dependable source. In Christian thought the evolution has a built-in teleology. It conforms to a predetermined end, i.e. that all sentient beings will come to recognize a rational moral order to the universe.
(March 9, 2013 at 11:31 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Therefore from this perspective, "lashes" or "stoning", maybe justified.Ooo! "A spanking! A spanking"...
