RE: Thanks for creating a forum with real debate!
March 10, 2013 at 9:32 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2013 at 9:33 pm by jstrodel.)
(March 10, 2013 at 6:12 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: You're conflating secularism and communism (political movements with specific agendas) with atheism (an apolitical position on a non-political subject). I'll give you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're simply labouring under a misapprehension rather than being deliberately intellectually dishonest but you are misrepresenting a very clear and well understood definition.
No I'm not. You are intentionally defining a term to obscure the fact that those two movements come out of the same people, with the same funding, and the same culture. You are creating a definition of a term to make atheism appear like it has come out of thin air.
Your central piece of evidence is a dictionary definition. Don't you realize that people write dictionaries and have their own motivations for doing so?
Why can't you see that what you are doing is extremely political and is intentionally avoiding a real appreciation of the nature of the atheist movement?
(March 10, 2013 at 6:28 pm)Ryantology Wrote:jstrodel Wrote:Atheism is not at all a mere absence of belief in Gods. Of course people are free to create their own definition of words, but this definition is intentionally vague and leaves out the extremely political undertones of the atheist movement. Atheism is a carefully planned out plan to unseat the power of the Christian church in Western civilization and replace it with secular authority. It has succeed in Russia and throughout the world in the form of Communism, which Marxist's like Stephen J Gould and Christopher Hitchens have denounced (but still are sympathetic to Marxist views).
I had no idea I was a member of a large, organized, planned attempt to subvert a single, specific religion.
You have a picture of Bertrand Russell as your avatar. Give me a break. Did you post in the ecstasy thread too about how Christians are fools because they think atheists are drug users?