RE: Consciousness & Space-Time
March 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(March 11, 2013 at 2:35 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Can you feel pain without knowing it? Well yes you can, there have been times when I have injured myself and only noticed the pain when I stopped doing what I was doing, adrenaline can mask pain as can some drugs....There has even been times when I have found that I have been in pain for a little while and not noticed straight away.True, you may have awareness of a pain-causing injury before actually feeling the pain. If you “don't notice pain” you aren't actually experiencing the pain are you?
(March 11, 2013 at 3:03 pm)apophenia Wrote: Obviously, the Anton-Babinski sufferer is not actually blind, and the doctors are mistaken, because she has "primal knowledge" that she is seeing things.Using severely damaged brains to argue against a healthy brains ability to make accurate assessments of their internal state of mind makes for a very week case. So what exactly is going on inside the head of Anton-Babiniski sufferer? I haven’t a clue. Yet I find it hard to believe that they do not experience something directly. The plasticity of the brain has been well documented. One area taking up the functions of damaged areas. I am not suggesting that another area of the brain has taken up visual processing, but it is conceivable that a combination of imagination and memory could be generating sensations. Or the patient is compelled to issue verbal reports for non-existent sensations. These and all other interpretations, including your suggestions, are highly speculative.
I notice that you are not interested in presenting something you believe must be true and from which you can build a logical argument about conscious experience.
