RE: Thanks for creating a forum with real debate!
March 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2013 at 2:21 pm by jstrodel.)
(March 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(March 10, 2013 at 9:32 pm)jstrodel Wrote: No I'm not. You are intentionally defining a term to obscure the fact that those two movements come out of the same people, with the same funding,
There's funding!
Wheres my money?
Look at groups like the National Academy for Science, The university funding priorities, various humanist and liberal groups that overlap with atheism. Not all these are explicitly atheist, but the vision that they all share is secular.
Look at the public education system (highschool and college) to some degree, which is controlled by liberals (not all atheists though the goals substantially overlap in many cases).
Universities get billions a year to teach from a perspective that while falling short of atheism advocacy (though it does get into that sometimes) does advocate a secular way of thinking that greatly strengthens the atheist movement. Atheism as a movement owes its strength to this money to a large degree.
Atheists feel like they are persecuted. Hah. If you want to see serious persecution, goto a public university. See how bad the atheists making $100,000 grand a year are being persecuted.
