Atheists; what do you base your morals on?

[DeistPaladin]

Probably it would look like the government taxing people at very, very high rates and using it to support social programs that the people didn't want to pay for, and ignoring the ways that people already deal with those issues in their communities. Actually, that is what is happening right now.

***Facepalm***

Assuming you're American, what alternate reality do you live in?

The state wants to force people to pay for things that many people don't want, money that explicitly goes to secular programs that cannot be easily used for religious programs.

This is very authoritarian.

This is the separation of church and state.

If you object to social programs, this is an economic/political issue that has nothing to do with atheism or humanism. Again, talk to some of our resident atheist-libertarians and I think you'll find common ground.

It would also force people to accept political correctness as an enforced, public morality, as it is presently done in universities. Try working at a university and writing a book about why homosexuality is wrong. They will say it is hate speech. They have "non-discrimination laws" that make it "illegal" to discriminate against anyone, except the 80% of Americans who are Christian and others who are religious.

Not all atheists are liberal fascists, but some are.

Remember that rule I provided about "tell it on the mountain but not Capitol Hill"?

Here's another simple rule to help us all get along:
Stopping you from oppressing me isn't oppressing you.

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As I have to see my hard-won tax money subsidizing churches, energy producers, big banks and the military-industrial complex against my will, I think all I can say is get the fuck over it.

The Iraq War that W lied us into has cost taxpayers some 3 Trillion Dollars, not counting what other countries suckered into it spent.

By the election of 2004, it was obvious W had lied us into that war, that all the wild claims of WMD and links to Al Qaida were not even sort of true.

Therefore, any voter who voted for W Bush in 2004 should pay a special tax to raise the 3 Trillion dollars to pay for the war they tacitly approved of.

Until we get to do that, I don't want to hear one more Republican whine about having to pay for food stamps or whatever.