RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 12, 2013 at 7:07 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2013 at 7:11 pm by catfish.)
(March 12, 2013 at 11:50 am)pocaracas Wrote: The discussion of whether the zygote/embryo is human or not is, in my view, pointless. It's an attempt at rationalizing the thing, but, as cafish is showing, leads only to a discussion where each side becomes ever more polarized and eventually one just gives up arguing.
Not quite... It's an attempt at rationalizing the killing of the thing.
Perhaps you'd like to explore the definition of parasite? At what point does a human-parasite stop being a parasite?
(March 12, 2013 at 11:09 am)EGross Wrote: Well, if he holds that having a cell is part of a religious argument, and if he holds that a zygote, which is the initial cell formed when two gamete cells are joined, then it goes into a loop.
Meaning, he holds that a single cell is a human, and that is his religious argument.
I'm glad we cleared that up.
Holy fuck people. It was sarcasm directed at you for your numerous assertitions that abortion was a religious argument.
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(March 12, 2013 at 10:53 am)Esquilax Wrote:(March 12, 2013 at 10:28 am)catfish Wrote: Seriously though, have I not been clear?
Is "zygote/fetus = human (individual)" ambiguous in some way that I'm not aware of? What am I missing here?
Well, apparently so, since it's unclear to you that just because you declare something to be so, doesn't make it so.
You can demand that we take your definition at face value all you want, but that doesn't make you right, it just makes you arrogant. You haven't provided any evidence for your position beyond repeated by fiat commands that we use your definition of what's human and a single vague diagram.
How is this even debate?
I'm sorry, I forgot to ask your opinion too.
Is a human zygote/fetus a human, or some other species?
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