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Which, in blindness and ignorance, you assume is true.
Good actions such as rape, murder, slavery, torture, genocide, etc justify belief in God?
Confirmation bias.
Demonstrate proof that anyone has skill in the spiritual.
And independently confirmed by no one, ever. The only kind of testimony more worthless than that of the eyewitness is the 'personal revelation'. There are so many reasons not to trust this eyewitness account, and they should be face-smacking obvious to someone of average intelligence such as yourself.
Suffers from even more problems than the last issue.
Do you mean the International Man/Boy Love Association in Rome, or the 40,000 conflicting and contradicting strains of the Christian religion?
Rendered meaningless by equal evidence of 'good fruit' in the lives of non-Christians.
Appeal to longevity. There are religions with societies far older.
There isn't a single reason to consider any such claims as valid, no matter who makes them.
Entirely nonexistent.
It is not possible to know that anything untrue is true, and if you think it is true, it is only because you want to think it is and you have convinced yourself of it. All religions have followers every bit as devout as yourself and are every bit as convinced that they've had spiritual experiences every bit as 'real' as you think yours was. If you think that they are delusional madmen, you understand why we think you're a delusional madman.
If your time spent here has been to demonstrate this, you have not yet even begun to do so to anyone's satisfaction.
epistemotology epistemotology epistemotology fuck i hate that word now Wrote:No, an irrationalist worldview undermines Christianity because Christianity teaches that God is knowable
Which, in blindness and ignorance, you assume is true.
Quote:and belief in God is justified along very specific criteria such as the moral character of God (morals being presupposed first in assessing the nature of knowledge, pointing to God, and good actions including what a sense of a good account of knowledge being grounded in a creator - a chicken and egg problem)
Good actions such as rape, murder, slavery, torture, genocide, etc justify belief in God?
Quote:miracles which are common in devout believers
Confirmation bias.
Quote:and historically form an unbroken stream of supernatural (only fantastically impossible if you have no skill in the spiritual)
Demonstrate proof that anyone has skill in the spiritual.
Quote:the resurrection of Christ (attested by many eyewitnesses)
And independently confirmed by no one, ever. The only kind of testimony more worthless than that of the eyewitness is the 'personal revelation'. There are so many reasons not to trust this eyewitness account, and they should be face-smacking obvious to someone of average intelligence such as yourself.
Quote:the confirmation of prophecy
Suffers from even more problems than the last issue.
Quote:the moral authority of the church
Do you mean the International Man/Boy Love Association in Rome, or the 40,000 conflicting and contradicting strains of the Christian religion?
Quote:the evidence of good fruit in sincere Christians lives
Rendered meaningless by equal evidence of 'good fruit' in the lives of non-Christians.
Quote:the evidence of Christian societies which have existed for 2000 years
Appeal to longevity. There are religions with societies far older.
Quote:the explanatory power that Christianity has in dealing with competing claims of revelation
There isn't a single reason to consider any such claims as valid, no matter who makes them.
Quote:the coherence and explanatory power of theism, etc.
Entirely nonexistent.
Quote:It is possible to know that Christianity is true, although that knowledge comes through seeing the historical reality of Christianity manifest in believers lives. This is something I have had personally happen to me.
It is not possible to know that anything untrue is true, and if you think it is true, it is only because you want to think it is and you have convinced yourself of it. All religions have followers every bit as devout as yourself and are every bit as convinced that they've had spiritual experiences every bit as 'real' as you think yours was. If you think that they are delusional madmen, you understand why we think you're a delusional madman.
Quote:I can assure you that I do not want to place all beliefs on equal footing. I want to show, on the contrary, that only Christianity has the ability to shed light on the human experience with clarity and authority, and that apart from Christianity people are sort of confused as to what their life means and where they fit into everything. They think that they have to make it all up.
If your time spent here has been to demonstrate this, you have not yet even begun to do so to anyone's satisfaction.
