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Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism
RE: Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism
(March 14, 2013 at 4:08 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: So, Strodel, you just said that left wing politics were destructive and then went on to say that left wing agendas brought forth some of the greatest scientists and thinkers of our time, influence much of the motivation behind scientific progress, and were largely responsible for the opening of sexuality.

So...what was destructive about them, again...?

Well, the people who are teaching you history are liberals and left wing people. How well can you rate achievements? The left has only been in existence for 200-250 years, something like that, maybe earlier. Liberals want to mention the fact that Einstein was a socialist, of course, to boost their movement. What is the relationship between Einstein's achievements and the rest of mankind's deepest thinkers? There have been plenty that havn't been socialists.

I would not say that science traces back to the atheist movement, it traces back to people like Locke and Bacon and Newton and Gallileo and Copernicus. Most of the early scientists were Christian. The left was like a movement to kick the Christians out of the universities. Harvard used to be Christian. Jonathan Edwards was president at Princeton at one time. Oxford has a long Christian history.

Basically what happened was that in the 19th century massive numbers of people starting following people like Freud (arguably, offered very few lasting contributions), Marx (mostly discredited), Nietzsche (argued essentially that pride was a virtue, unsurprising that he was popular) etc instead of following God. The modern atheist movement traces back to this.

As for the opening of sexuality, are you referring to the devaluing of children, the acceptance of promiscuity and the mass sexual objectification of woman in popular culture?
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RE: Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 6, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Rhizomorph13 - March 6, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 6, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 7, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 7, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 7, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Ecstasy - by paulpablo - March 13, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 3:08 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Creed of Heresy - March 7, 2013 at 3:23 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 4:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 7, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Ecstasy - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 7, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 7, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 8, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by paulpablo - March 9, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 9, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 9, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 9, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 10, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 4:50 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Faith No More - March 11, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 11, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 11, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 15, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 11, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 13, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 13, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Faith No More - March 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Angrboda - March 12, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by festive1 - March 12, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 12, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 12, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 12, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 9:02 pm

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