RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 14, 2013 at 11:22 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2013 at 11:24 pm by genkaus.)
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: So, the "people" here wish to prove themselves more fucked up than they claim the God of the Bible is? - Check!
That's just not possible.
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Do the "people" deny basic biology to support their views? - Check!
Nope. Show me where basic biology has been denied?
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Legislating the value (and the start?) of individual life by the "people"? - Check!
Nope - just the start - based on rational principles.
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Are "people" more offended by sexism than murder? - Check!
Nope - murder is still more offensive. But then, abortion is not murder.
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: I'm all for raising the standards of what is legally considered a "person", I say we make part of the standard a minimum intelligence level. After all, there are some dumbfucks who aren't True Humans™ with any capacity for intelligence worth noting.
You do realize that you'd be one of the first ones to go, right?
Anyway, justify that condition being included and it might be considered.
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: The dumbasses have a double standard if you haven't noticed. If any dumbass would kill or maim another "legal" person (even a fetus), their dumbasses would be responsible for their actions. However, let 2 dumbasses create a new life and one of them is allowed to kill and maim that new life?
Yeah - because that new life is not a legal person.
(March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm)catfish Wrote: You either value life or you don't, and if you don't, you have no right making moral judgements on a person's reason (genkaus).
Don't be such a dumbass. There is a whole range of options available to us.
1. I value free autonomous life most - normal humans.
2. Next is life with capacity with autonomy not practiced - babies, old people, insane etc
3. Life with potential autonomy. - fetuses.
4. Life - animals/plants.
And at the bottom of the ladder is, life with autonomy that chooses to infringe upon other person's autonomy. By choosing the most valuable human faculty to negate it in others it has fallen from most valuable to the least. You seem to be a good candidate for that Cat.
(March 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm)catfish Wrote:(March 14, 2013 at 7:12 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Murder = Unlawful killing, you total peasant.
You get your morals from current law? Fucking whiner.
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Murder is a legal concept, you moron.