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Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism
RE: Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism



The liberal hegemony in the U.S. and its causes cannot be separated from the effects of the so-called , which, to the best of my knowledge, was not a Marxist plot. (Nam might have played an imperceptible role as well.)

Second, in tracing the roots of the secularization of public school education one can hardly ignore the important role played by the sectarian conflict between Protestants (who controlled the content of religious instruction in public schools) and Irish Catholic immigrants (who were being discriminated against) in the 19th century. The "Catholic Encyclopedia" tells it fairly well, though not completely. If nothing else, it demonstrates that desire for religious neutrality in the public schools was not solely, or even primarily, a liberal, atheist plot.

Quote:The unsuccessful attempt of Father Richard of Detroit in 1808 to obtain for the Catholic schools of that city a share of the public funds, was followed in 1830 by a more successful plan at Lowell, Mass. At that time the population of Lowell included many Irish Catholic immigrants. In 1830 at the annual town meeting a committee was appointed to consider the expediency of "establishing a separate school for the benefit of the Irish population", and the following year the sum of fifty dollars annually was appropriate for that purpose. In 1855 there were two Catholic schools at Lowell; both were recognized as part of the school system of the town, and both were supported out of the public funds. After sixteen years of successful trial the arrangement was discontinued in 1852, owing to the wave of bigotry known as the Knownothing Movement that swept over New England. In New York, as early as 1806, St. Peter's School applied for and received State aid. A similar arrangement was made for St. Patrick's School in 1816. In 1824 this support was withdrawn by the State, owing to the activity of the Public School Society. To this society was committed the entire school fund for distribution, and, as we learn from the protests of New York Catholics, the activity of the society was directed towards making the public schools not strictly non-sectarian but offensively Protestant. In 1840 the School Controversy in New York was precipitated by the petition of the Catholics to be allowed a share of the public funds for their schools. The petition was rejected by the Common Council; but the fight was not, on that account, discontinued. With remarkable zeal, eloquence, and erudition, Bishop Hughes, supported not only by all his Catholic people, but also by some of the non-Catholic congregations of the city, urged the claims of religious education. He laid stress on the contention that Catholics have a right to "a fair and just proportion of the funds appropriated for the common schools, provided the Catholics will do with it the same thing that is done in the common schools". He claimed no special privilege, but contended for the "constitutional rights" of his people. He was opposed, not only by the Public School Society, but also by representatives of the Methodist, Episcopal, and Presbyterian Churches. The claims of the Catholics went before the legislature; but there also sectarian hatred was injected into the discussion and bigotry gained the day. The controversy, however, had one good result. It showed the imminent danger to faith and morals existing in the public school system as influenced by the so-called non-sectarians of that day, and as a consequence Catholics set to work to build up, at a tremendous cost, a system of parochial schools unsupported by the State.


If I recall correctly, Bishop Hughes was nearly lynched in rioting over the controversy.


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RE: Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism - by Angrboda - March 15, 2013 at 12:51 am
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RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 11, 2013 at 11:48 pm
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RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 6:55 pm
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