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The Absolute Truth
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RE: The Absolute Truth
(March 15, 2013 at 11:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(March 15, 2013 at 10:36 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: ...miracles should have happened every now and again at my Pentecostal church of ~1000 people, answered prayers shouldn't look like a trivial coincidence based on explainable factors...
If you take the the total number of miracles recorded in the Bible and you divide by the period of time covered by the Bible, say roughly 6000 years, then you will see that even by biblical standards miracles are very rare events. Now there are clusters of miracles (punctuated equilibrium if you will) around certain exceptional figures, like Moses and Jesus, but that is to be expected. Plus there seems to be dry spells, like the 400 years of Egyptian captivity.

I can see what you're saying. Of course, the events surrounding Moses and Moses 2.0 (Jesus) are up for debate.

(March 15, 2013 at 11:24 pm)apophenia Wrote:
(March 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: Every atheist ...eh...rational atheist I've conversed with has always pointed out that "a god, if he indeed so exists....would be omnipotent."
(i.e. able to do anything!)

Not all gods are omnipotent. Christians often claim their god is omnipotent, but since Christians follow a false god, it's a moot point.



The question these Christians have to answer is this: can God create a rock he can't lift? Of course, we can cut to the chase and say he's not omnipotent because iron seems to be this rock:

Judges 1:19
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 13, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 13, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Drich - March 14, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 14, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by ronedee - March 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Baalzebutt - March 14, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 14, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by ronedee - March 15, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by ronedee - March 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 15, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Tonus - March 15, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by ronedee - March 20, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 12:42 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Angrboda - March 15, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 16, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Brakeman - March 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Brakeman - March 15, 2013 at 6:46 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 15, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by ronedee - March 15, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by downbeatplumb - March 15, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Minimalist - March 15, 2013 at 1:40 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 15, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Tonus - March 15, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 15, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 15, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 15, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 15, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 15, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 16, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 16, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 16, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 17, 2013 at 12:12 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 17, 2013 at 1:18 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 16, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Minimalist - March 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 16, 2013 at 2:00 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Tonus - March 16, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 16, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Cato - March 17, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by frankiej - March 17, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Anomalocaris - March 17, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 17, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Minimalist - March 16, 2013 at 2:11 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by KichigaiNeko - March 16, 2013 at 2:11 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Godschild - March 16, 2013 at 2:39 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by KichigaiNeko - March 16, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Foxaèr - March 17, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 17, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by MysticKnight - March 17, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by FallentoReason - March 17, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:40 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 19, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Angrboda - March 19, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Neo-Scholastic - March 20, 2013 at 9:23 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by downbeatplumb - March 19, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 10:57 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Foxaèr - March 18, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Foxaèr - March 18, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Foxaèr - March 19, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Foxaèr - March 19, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Foxaèr - March 19, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 19, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Angrboda - March 19, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Whateverist - March 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by Darkstar - March 19, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: The Absolute Truth - by EGross - March 21, 2013 at 1:00 am

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