RE: Please help me with Banu Qurayza story
March 16, 2013 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2013 at 11:26 am by Meylis Delano Lawrence.)
(March 16, 2013 at 10:44 am)Dawud Wrote: I'm not telling you that the tribe accepted it - but the EVIDENCE YOU GAVE ME said it.
But you'll just accept and reject what you like and say it is false evidence - even though you gave it to me. This is because the evidence is subservient to your own hateful story.
The Hadith explicitly says the Qurayza accepted the penalty and explicitly says it was Mosaic law - not Muhammad pbuh's shariah - that was used to judge.
It says it in black and white they accepted it (if you actually read it) but you'll probably reject that black and white because you've already decided and are an embarrassment to those calling themselves agnostics who want to take evidence and not their backstory as a starting point.
I'm not even going to quote it because I want you to experience -actually- reading what those hadiths say including the express acceptance of the Jewish penalty for treason.
Listen dude, I'm not being hostile - if you want to decide that the Hadith are not worthy to be taken seriously then don't claim you know anything about Muhammad PBUH
Black and white my friend - trust that and not your prejudice.
PS - it's the experts that you quoted to me
I thought you trusted them
I've sent you those quranic verses and hadiths to prove you that genocide did happen in general since muslims refuse to acknowledge. I sent those to prove you that even according to muslims sources it was a horrible crime. Of course , I could have shown you texts by other historians that say what I say. But you would then reject it saying it is a made -up story from west or atheists or christians or nonbelievers or hypocrits. In fact that's how you started the conversation. You basically said that it was an attempt of christians. So you would not accept any other sourse than quran and hadith.
As far as hadith is concerned, of couse they are goin say that they accepted the death. They are no going to say that MO brutally killed the men and raped the women. They're going to say they accepted men to be killed and women used as sex slaves. They are not going to say Mo fucked the jewish girl the same day he killed her husband and father. No, they're going to say Mo proposed marriage and she accepted. How can a girl marry a man who killed her husband and father. It's a common sense MORRON. If you want me to show western sources or arab sources or sources of "non-believers" I can show you, but you're simply going to reject since you only trust the the islamic source and who's being bias here?
(March 16, 2013 at 10:44 am)Dawud Wrote: Listen dude, I'm not being hostile - if you want to decide that the Hadith are not worthy to be taken seriously then don't claim you know anything about Muhammad PBUH
Don't make stuff up, I didn't say that about hadiths. Read all the posts. Btw I chose hadiths and quran because that's the source nutheads trust most.
If you claim to know so much about MO then I challenge you on that. How ignorant you have to be to think that a man who had 13 wives ( one of them was a 9 year old) and 4 concubines a prophet? Would you still trust the hadiths or will you choose not to if I prove that he was a pedophile and sexually obsessed warlord?
(March 16, 2013 at 10:46 am)Dawud Wrote: Relax - take it easy and actually study this stuff without your emotional baggage and prejudice
So do you accept my challenge?
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