RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
March 17, 2013 at 4:11 pm
(This post was last modified: March 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm by jstrodel.)
(March 17, 2013 at 12:32 am)whateverist Wrote: Most likely Christianity will continue to slide more and more into the dust bin of history as the increase in knowledge and direction of popular culture makes literal claims for any religion less and less tenable. Whatever the number of Christians may be today the day is coming when you will probably be more and more marginalized. It will become increasingly difficult to keep your children in the church no matter how much you try to isolate them from the wider world.
My advice to you is to be thankful you live in a country where the protection for all to practice their religion as they please is so deeply ingrained in the government. As doing so becomes more and more quaint you can at least be sure no one will interfere with you. Frankly even letting you closet your children and home school them for indoctrination instead of giving them a real real education probably borders on child abuse.
What a pity it is that you simply will not allow yourselves to evolve in your faith. Like said before lots of real scientists are Christians. Many people have found it possible to integrate their faith with science and to give up the remnants of bigotry and oppression which contaminate the bible as relics of the time in which it was written. If only you could stretch yourself a little there would be no conflict. You could give your kids a grounding in a more enlightened form of faith which would not be too fragile to survive in public schools. You could give them a foundation that would allow them to hold their heads high in the wider community.
But you won't budge. You'd rather force a fracture of the social contract we have which protects all religious faith equally in order to promote an alternative to secular public life. Sad for you really.
Who says I am against science? I am planing a career out in academia right now. I am not against science, I am against nationalistic indoctrination.
What if you are wrong about your beliefs? Doesn't it scare you that you are on the wrong side of the most important question in history? How sure are you that I am lying or crazy and I havn't seen God 50 or 100 times like I promise that I have (along with millions of others)? What if you are wrong?
(March 17, 2013 at 3:17 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:(March 16, 2013 at 10:18 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You think that giving people freedom about where to spend their tax dollars is the tyranny of the majority? Can you put that in formal logic?
Sure.
Creationism = religious belief.
Teaching Creationism in public schools (funded by tax dollars) = establishment of religion.
Science =/= a religion.
Teaching science in public schools =/= establishment of religion.
I hope that's clear. I can't make it any simpler.
Who said anything about creationism? I am not a creationist, and that isn't what I am advocating.
