Science and religion

[jstrodel]

So today the pastor was saying how science and the bible go hand in hand, but science hasn't yet caught up with the bible.

It sounds as if he's saying that one day, science will be sophisticated enough to prove the non-scientific and supernatural and mystical content of the Bible. I would say that where this is concerned, science will never "catch up with the Bible" because so much that is in the Bible is not scientific. After all, one of the rationalizations that I frequently hear from believers is that god exists on some plane that cannot be understood or explained by science.

I know that the JWs teach that some biblical references show that it's in harmony with science, by showing some texts that can be interpreted that way or compared with what are thought to be common ideas of the time (ie, that blood circulated through the body, or that ants stored up food). Assuming that this is true (that they held views that were contrary to common understanding, but scientifically accurate) does not change the fact that many of the things described in the Bible are unlikely to be confirmed by science because they are supernatural occurrences.

There is nothing unscientific about miracles. No one has ever disproved that miracles could happen and no one ever will. If you are talking about Young Earth Creationism or flood geology or something like that, that it is a different story.

There are so many books written about the relationship between science and the Bible. It is not as if the voices of hundreds of thousands or millions of scientists over the last few hundred years who were Christians around the world have failed to provide any rebuttal to the technocrats bid for power.

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1) Christians are all about guilt and suffering as "character builders"

2) People do respond. You, like a lot of the theists here, deliberately ignore what you don't like.

3) I'm not proving shit to you. Especially since you don't even know what a fallacy is.

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The atheist isn't anything. A critical thinker, rationalist or skeptic is the critical thinker. Again, you don't fucking listen.

A fallacy is like a rule that you can easily apply over English language texts that will automatically tell you if a statement is valid, you don't have to do anything, you just read up on what other people consider to be fallacies and then that makes you an intellectual. Just learn from them, that's all you have to do!