RE: The Absolute Truth
March 20, 2013 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm by ronedee.)
(March 15, 2013 at 10:09 pm)Tonus Wrote:(March 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: And here is the Atheistic paradox....You are willing to accept the fact that there are things you don't know about.....BUT, God is not one of them! Even IF He created EVERYTHING!
On the contrary. I am willing to accept that there are things we don't know about... including god. It seems to me that the only difference between us is that you ponder the lack of evidence for god and decide that he's there, and I ponder the lack of evidence and decide that he's not. You are able to provide as much proof for his existence as I am able to provide against it. For everything except god, we'd reach the same conclusion.
Well tonus I have to give you credit for having the chones to respond to that statement... none of your compardres did...but then you wouldn't be the stereotypical Atheist with those remarks now either.
(March 15, 2013 at 11:24 pm)apophenia Wrote: Not all gods are omnipotent. Christians often claim their god is omnipotent, but since Christians follow a false god, it's a moot point.
You're so informed, and knowledgeable! Why do we look any further for truth and wisdom with you around?!
(March 16, 2013 at 7:24 pm)whateverist Wrote:(March 16, 2013 at 8:27 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Sometimes I think all the "omni-" words fall into what I call "church-speak", phrases that get used so often they become meaningless. I find it helpful to toy around with the order to see subtle shift in undestanding. What if instead of calling God 'All powerful' we said 'power over all', or suppose instead of 'all knowing' we just say he knows everything there is to know?
To which I always want to ask but what if your god turned out only to be pretty darned powerful, but not over everything. And what if it only knew way more than anyone else but far less than everything. Would you then send it packing for it having failed to live up to your expectation? How could people then (or now for that matter) possibly take the measure of the god you believe in accurately? Are you equipped to make that measurement? Who is?
Isn't it easier just to believe? Really now....What harm is there to believe there is an Almighty God, who has a plan that we can't really understand and grasp fully yet?
Do you feel like you will have to prostate yourself, or bow repeatedly to thin air? Or, have to do all kinds of ritualistic sacrafices to please Him?
I mean..."IF" there is a God, He really hasn't given us any first-hand info but the Ten Commandments...Right? And the "Be fruitful and multiply" thingy.
What is wrong with living according to His commandments and having your own belief system, but rooted in Good, and God?
Or...is it really rebellion against whatever represents God to you that is the real reason for disbelief?
Most every Atheist here wants some kind of "proof" that God exists...But how do you get proof if you deny His existence?
Matt 7:7
"Seek and ye shall find. Knock and it shall be opened unto you."
Reminds me of the monkey in a cage story:
Hand a chimp an apple from outside the bars of his cage. He will rip his hand raw to get it in through the bars....when all he needs to do is put the apple up to the bars and eat it through them!
Atheists need to put the question of God in their hearts to find the answer.
But you won't...because you know best! And how could a mear God be smarter than you?
Quis ut Deus?
