RE: The concept of Hell discourages belief
March 22, 2013 at 10:18 am
(March 22, 2013 at 9:40 am)catfish Wrote: I'm sorry, I missed where that was "as shown".
In the verse which I mentioned and Godschild referenced, in which aionios is used to describe the fate of both the saved and the damned. Unless you're arguing that the afterlife of the saved endures for a finite age and then ceases, the context indicates that aionios can mean eternal or everlasting.
Quote:You should know that I'm not going to make claims regarding the afterlife, but only about what is written.
OK, if you're not claiming that the damned are not punished eternally, we have no argument.
(March 22, 2013 at 8:01 am)John V Wrote: Yup, "eternal punishment" is not punishment, it is revenge... The Greek fucking myths are what I reject too. So yeah, I object to the eternal punishment in some Greek mythological place of damnation. Who is pretending?
Object to Greek mythology all you like. The fact is, however, that the Bible teaches eternal suffering.
Quote:Anyways, "eternal punishment" goes against this verse, make of it what you will. 
Hebrews 12:5-8 King James Version (KJV)
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
This passage refers to temporal punishment of the saved, not the afterlife of the damned.
