RE: My reasoning in rejecting eternal torture/hell...
March 27, 2013 at 11:05 pm
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2013 at 11:11 pm by Godscreated.)
(March 27, 2013 at 6:39 pm)Justtristo Wrote:(March 26, 2013 at 9:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: People can only commit a certain number of sins before they die, however those sins are eternal unless they have been forgiven, thus eternal punishment (not torture) for eternal sins.
This does not make any sense, especially given the descriptions of what hell is like in the New Testament. If what happens in hell according to the New Testament is not torture, I don't know what is.
Did you read my response to missluckie26, that is how I see hell, it answers some questions I use to have about hell. Know this, hell could be just as described in scripture. The statements about hell in scripture do not seem to add up to a firey hell. I spent years working this out and what I believe does not include torture, nor fire, however it is in my opinion worse than the hell described in scripture, when one knows the love of God then one could understand why it would be hell without it. Scripture does say that all will come into the presence of God the Father and at that time God's love will be known to those who have condemned themselves, so they will also know what it will means to be without His love.
If you are questioning the sin, all things wrong are first against God and without His forgiveness of those sin they continue on for eternity. A wrong against an eternal God, is an eternal sin, without forgiveness, thus an eternal punishment. This is what scripture tells us, everything I stated in this paragraph can be found in scripture, please remember I studied this for a long time, so if you have a disagreement with it I will need proof.
(March 27, 2013 at 6:54 pm)Darkstar Wrote:(March 26, 2013 at 9:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: People can only commit a certain number of sins before they die, however those sins are eternal unless they have been forgiven, thus eternal punishment (not torture) for eternal sins.
Someone commits a minor crime, and that crime is on their criminal record for life. Therefore, whatever that crime may be, it is certainly deserving of life in prison, no?
God has told us what sin is and the punishment it deserves, if you want to argue this you need to get outside and shout to heaven your complaint, no matter what I say or you say to me, we can not change what God deems just.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
