RE: If god were real...
April 2, 2013 at 3:51 am
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2013 at 3:54 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 2, 2013 at 3:43 am)Godschild Wrote: It doesn't matter if it was Lucifer or another angel it was going to be someone disobeying God.Categorically untrue. It was -always- going to be a very specific "someone" -your god is omniscient, remember, that shit is fixed.
Quote: What you lack is understanding of the scriptures, God created the angels, mankind and any other beings capable of loving God for that very reason, God wanted His created ones to love Him. What is wrong with that, please tell me, what is wrong with that?It's remarkably selfish and self centered-just for starters-. I didn't create any children with the express and singular purpose of loving me. In fact, I expect that I'll have to earn and maintain that love, and in no way will that love -if i can earn and maintain it- be their purpose, their reason for being.......
Quote:God wanted His created ones to love Him freely, is there something wrong with that, tell me?He knew whether they would or wouldn't they are not free, that shit is fixed, yet again.
Quote: Do you want others to love you because they want to, because they actually love who you are?Well, seeing as I'm not creating people to love me...........and seeing as how our "wants" are powerless in the face of your gods omniscience and what that says about time and events.........and since no one knows any god in any case.......this one kind of crumbles under it's own pretentiousness.
Quote:This is what God wants, now maybe you want people to love you because they fill obligated to, that is not true love by the way. So God gave us free will to choose, He wants people to choose.That would be unfortunate for god, because the way you describe him, his very nature prevents this desire from ever being fulfilled. His very nature - as you describe it, rules out any free will, any choice. He wants something which he cannot have. Apparently, he's also willing to throw a divine temper tantrum when this sad reality pans out exactly as it always would have - as he always knew it would have....devoid of all those things you claim he wants.
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