RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
April 3, 2013 at 9:45 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2013 at 9:47 pm by Mystic.)
(April 3, 2013 at 2:08 pm)Rhythm Wrote: As before, still in the same boat - what I'm questioning (often in our conversations) is how a god or creator can elaborate upon any of these things. Why it seems -to you- to be something worth entertaining, especially when we have a situation where we can plug in "the universe" or "god" and both work as well - or not as well- for the same reasons - with the universe being something neither of us feels the need to argue into existence and god being entirely less "meaty" in comparison.
As far as cosmological argument, there is no reason to prefer one over the other. But there can be reasons outside the cosmological argument.
Quote:I found another, perhaps simpler, way to put this. One side is attempting to explain the unknown by reference to the known - the other is attempting to explain the unknown by reference to the unknown.
Ontologically, there is no proof material world exists, as far as I am aware of. For all we know, it can be matrix like.
Also, if we have a soul, then it's not unlikely we been given perception or knowledge of having that soul.
(April 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm)apophenia Wrote:(April 3, 2013 at 11:55 am)MysticKnight Wrote: But time seems more then that, it seems part of reality.
What is the difference between 'reality' and the universe? It seems you are asserting a difference here, and it's not clear what that difference is.
Well I'm saying it's part of the material world in this instance, a dimension of the universe. What I meant by it not being simply a measurement of events, is that time is needed for events, and is a property of the universe.