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Is belief really a choice?
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RE: Is belief really a choice?
(April 4, 2013 at 10:27 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(April 4, 2013 at 10:17 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And would add, the fact we do condemn them, shows we believe we do choose what we believe and that there are things that we ought to believe(ie. there are thought crimes).
It doesn't show any such thing, it simply shows that we assign culpability to the agents of any action.

But you would not blame them or condemn them if you believe they had no choice in their belief it was right.

Of course it doesn't show we are right in that belief, but simply that we do have that.
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Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 22, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 22, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by LastPoet - March 22, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tonus - March 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - March 22, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by downbeatplumb - March 22, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Angrboda - March 22, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - March 23, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - March 22, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 23, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 23, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by everythingafter - March 23, 2013 at 1:30 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 23, 2013 at 5:05 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 23, 2013 at 5:12 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Simon Moon - March 23, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by GordonHide - April 4, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 9:14 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:38 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:45 am
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Mononoke - April 4, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 2:45 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:13 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:18 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:37 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:13 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tonus - April 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 6:52 pm
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by OneOfAKind - April 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - April 5, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 5, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - April 5, 2013 at 9:00 am
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RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tonus - April 5, 2013 at 3:23 pm
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