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Is belief really a choice?
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RE: Is belief really a choice?
April 4, 2013 at 10:38 am
(April 4, 2013 at 10:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: To condemn some person, requires you believe they are blameworthy. - but it doesn't require that you had any choice in that belief.

I could do the same for every line, but I don't have to, do I?
True but irrelevant.

Do you contest the following premise:

They can only avoid what is blameworthy, if they had some choice in the matter (ie. some free-will in deciding the matter).
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Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 22, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 22, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by LastPoet - March 22, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tonus - March 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - March 22, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by downbeatplumb - March 22, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Angrboda - March 22, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - March 23, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - March 22, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 23, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 23, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by everythingafter - March 23, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by NoraBrimstone - March 23, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 23, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by NoraBrimstone - March 23, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - March 23, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by pocaracas - March 23, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Simon Moon - March 23, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by GordonHide - April 4, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 9:14 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:38 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Mononoke - April 4, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by thesummerqueen - April 4, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 3:32 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tonus - April 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by OneOfAKind - April 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by GordonHide - April 5, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Re: Is belief really a choice? - by NoraBrimstone - April 5, 2013 at 4:56 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 5, 2013 at 4:58 am
Re: Is belief really a choice? - by NoraBrimstone - April 5, 2013 at 5:38 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 5, 2013 at 5:41 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - April 5, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 5, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - April 5, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tonus - April 5, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - April 7, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tex - April 6, 2013 at 1:15 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tex - April 6, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Whateverist - April 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 7, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tex - April 7, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Gearbreak - April 6, 2013 at 3:40 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by jstrodel - April 6, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by GordonHide - April 7, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by MysticKnight - April 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by GordonHide - April 8, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - April 7, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tex - April 7, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by TromboneAtheist - April 7, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Tex - April 7, 2013 at 7:31 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by The Grand Nudger - April 7, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Whateverist - April 8, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Silver - April 8, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by KichigaiNeko - April 8, 2013 at 5:31 am
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Gabriel Syme - May 3, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Whateverist - May 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Is belief really a choice? - by Joel - May 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm

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