Quote:I haven't viewed any specific data that leads me to believe the universe is here by design. I have nothing more than the Bible and my faith. What is there that proves that there wasn't a creator unequivocally?
Hey, if that's how you wanna live your life: fine. Just don't tell me or anyone else how to live based on your faith beliefs.
Me? I'd rather make a conclusion based on material fact.
1. Biologists have examined each of the molecular systems claimed to be the products of design and have shown how they could have arisen through natural processes.
2. Evolutionary biologists also have demonstrated how complex biochemical mechanisms could have evolved from simpler precursor systems.
3. Existing systems also can acquire new functions.
Irregardless of whether you believe evolution happened or not: there's no proof for design at all. Go look for it, if you don't believe me.
Which leaves us with, in the end if you believe God set off the big bang and thus evolutionary creation through faith: you're looking at bold-faced proof otherwise and disregarding it on purpose. Because no where in creation does it say, "made by god", or "designed by god". I mean, If there was a shred of proof that these systems were intelligently designed I'd see your point. But there isn't. So you're living in delusion.
That's fine. Just don't tell me I'm going to hell, or tell my friend he's going to hell. Or legislate against people's personal liberties because of what your delusional god(s) dictate.
Quote:Every single day. Unfailingly.
I feel sorry then that I questioned you. My bad. You read every day the content of that Bible and you still believe in god?
I know what you're thinking, I'm just another one of those evil doers not unlike those who mocked Noah. I'm just the devil testing you like in the desert with Jesus.
Here's the thing, I'm not. I'm seriously trying to deprogram your mind from a cult based reality.
Quote:Which assertions?
Love. God doesn't love us.
Justice. God is not just.
Infallibility. God is definitely fallible based on his own purported works.
Omnipotence God is not omnipotent
And the zillions of contradictions that lie within the Bible, with regards to these attributes.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
