Intelligent design type evolution vs naturalism type evolution.

[Mystic]

Well, let me help you to see the relevance. At the same time, I'm going to show you why "improvement" is a horrible way to talk about evolution.

Let's add insult to injury (as if my poor thirsty shaded plants lives weren't already bad enough)- suppose that the shaded group had "improved" genes. They had it within them to grow faster, heartier, resist frost much more adequately. Unfortunately, none of that matters, and none of it will be expressed in future populations on their count - because they didn;t get enough sunlight or moisture to pass those genes along. In this case the "lesser" genes won...and whatever a's, b's, or c's (go through the whole alphabet twice) they pass on will have had nothing to do with it. They simply survived.

Ok so does that contradict that notion it's not necessarily advantageous when you go outside that population area but within that population area, it must be advantageous?

Sorry Rhythm.

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What can't occur by small changes, a mutation does not have to be advantageous, and nothing is "heading" anywhere.

A mutation doesn't have to be, but a series of mutations has to be over all advantageous within a given population area to move a population area of species from point A to B when there is many many steps between A and B.