Intelligent Design, Proof IV

[Muslim Scholar]

One of the most ridiculous claims of evolutionists is that the first life cell was created by an accident

What are the minimum Requirements for that first cell?
It must have systems for
1- Grow
2- Dispose waist
3- Energy management
4- Reproduction
5- Copy/rebuild all of these systems to the new born
6- Coordination between these system.

Finally all of these systems must per-exist life or it will die as some of the minimum requirements aren't there.

I.e. this life cell must per-exist itself to be able to live.
"Circular logic"............simply Impossible

[Dragonetti]

Cells can hibernate until the proper conditions exist to activate. Think of virus and bacteria.

[KichigaiNeko]

Version IV and STILL nothing MS?

[Cato]

Evolution........Abiogenesis.

They're not even remotely spelled the same, why do you religious types keep fucking this up?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I almost got confused for a second there. I read 'proof' when really it was 'making stuff up as I go along'.

[Dragonetti]

It is lies told to oneself for justification of ones belief.

[downbeatplumb]

One of the most ridiculous claims of evolutionists is that the first life cell was created by an accident

Show me where anyone has said this.

I doubt very much that you can.

Anyhoo life almost certainly developed over a large period of time.

The current best guess is for an RNA a simpler DNA like molecule to have been the first life probably at a place where there was sufficient energy variance and the right protein soup such as around a thermal vent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_world_hypothesis

Nucleotides are the fundamental molecules that combine in series to form RNA. They consist of a nitrogenous base attached to a sugar-phosphate backbone. RNA is made of long stretches of specific nucleotides arranged so that their sequence of bases carries information. The RNA world hypothesis holds that in the primordial soup (or sandwich), there existed free-floating nucleotides. These nucleotides regularly formed bonds with one another, which often broke because the change in energy was so low. However, certain sequences of base pairs have catalytic properties that lower the energy of their chain being created, causing them to stay together for longer periods of time. As each chain grew longer, it attracted more matching nucleotides faster, causing chains to now form faster than they were breaking down.
These chains are proposed as the first, primitive forms of life. In an RNA world, different forms of RNA compete with each other for free nucleotides and are subject to natural selection. The most efficient molecules of RNA, the ones able to efficiently catalyze their own reproduction, survived and evolved, forming modern RNA. Such an RNA enzyme, capable of self replication in about an hour, has been identified. It was produced by molecular competition (in vitro evolution) of candidate enzyme mixtures.[48]
Competition between RNA may have favored the emergence of cooperation between different RNA chains, opening the way for the formation of the first proto-cell. Eventually, RNA chains randomly developed with catalytic properties that help amino acids bind together (a process called peptide-bonding). These amino acids could then assist with RNA synthesis, giving those RNA chains that could serve as ribozymes the selective advantage. The ability to catalyze one step in protein synthesis, aminoacylation of RNA, has been demonstrated in a short (five-nucleotide) segment of RNA.[49]

[KichigaiNeko]

The fact that "life" only had to happen once is beyond the concept of the religious to understand the total lack of a deity intervention.

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http://www.diffen.com/difference/Eukaryo...yotic_Cell

[Kayenneh]

You have no idea what you are talking about MS. The first kind of cells were micella, a really simple cell made of lipids in an aqueous solution. The first cells didn't have organelles and formed spontaneously under the right conditions. The micella provided an excellent 'shelter' other molecules. And all organelles weren't 'born' in cells from the beginning, e.g. the mitochondrion has different ribosomes than the rest of the cell, and it is thought that the mitochondrion was a bacterium-like energy producing entity that entered a symbiotic relationship with an ancient cell.

[Esquilax]

Did I miss the part where this idiot posted part II?