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woman rights in Islam
RE: woman rights in Islam
(November 24, 2009 at 5:23 am)Last_ Ray Wrote:
(November 23, 2009 at 7:33 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Well, nature cannot make a mechanical fly either :p

Yes , I agree with you nature is not creator and never be a creator , because the creator is Allah , he created for you the materials to invent your mechanical fly . therefore we did not create the fly , we used the materials which have been created in this earth by Allah , we used and grouped and shaped these materials to look like the real Fly . but it is not a fly or near to be a fly .
For that : the creator is the one who create from nothing a creatures .
did the mechanical fly pass through the stages of creation " egg , maggot ,… then a complete fly " ? observe : each stage is a living creature
are the materials of mechanical fly not existent on earth or are they already have been created on earth ?

Have you got any proof what-so-ever that Allah was responsible for any of this?

Quote:And the strange thing you said " nature " .
which is unreasonable thing created a creatures have targets in life . but when I ask you :
in our life is all our inventions by a wise people ? knew why they did invent these things before they invented them ? even if this invention was a needle . they invented it for a target and a reason .
what I said " a needle " solid not a living creature . but it was invented by a person knew the targets of this tool before invention it .
and when the case is the uncountable creations of god , you said : nature .. [ very strange ]

A lot of things are invented by mistake, and i mean A LOT of things.

1. Viagra was supposed to be heart medication, it had almost no effect on the heart but instead caused increased blood flow to the penis so they redesigned it for a new use.

2. Corn flakes were an accident, they left corn pasta out in the sun accidentally and when they came back, rather than waste it, they tried to roll it anyway but the stale corn did not hold up as a sheet, it cracked into flakes.

3. Microwave ovens were an accident, it was supposed to create a vacuum for scientific experiments, instead it melted chocolate bars near by and popped corn.

4. The slinky was a spring designed to support sensitive equipment in naval ships

5. Fireworks were accidentally created in China by a chef who was attempting to create a new flavor for duck.

6. Flavored Popsicles were accidentally invented after an 11 year old boy left his fruit drink out over night in sub-zero temperatures.

7. Penicillin is the most important medical discovery in human history, it was discovered by accident when Alexander Flemings accidentally contaminated a plate of bacteria with it. He came back the next day to find that most of the samples had become more infected with bacteria as expected, but the penicillin plate had no visible signs of bacteria.

8. Cling-wrap was invented by accident when someone was trying to make an new color dye.

Also accidental was the ice cream cone, the pacemaker, superglue, LSD, Vulcanized rubber and dove soap just to name a few.

Quote:let me give you an example for this :
humanity thanked Mr.Edison for his wonderful invention " the Lamp " . which has been invented after many years of studying and experiments , also after many failing tests . and we made of this person one of the greatest scientists , we honored him . we consider Edison a very wise person . also we know that this lamp in one day will not lighting ,also will break

at the same time humanity is thankless for the great creator of this " Sun " which light the earth for millions of years , never stop , and shine on earth in Specific times .
but the disaster : most people consider the creator of this sun is nature [ very strange ]

Your ignorance about the creation of stars is startling, star formation is one of the best researched and understood fields in cosmology and astrophysics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_formation

There is no reason at all to assume that a creator was involved in making a hot ball of gas burn, if fact it is very simple physics.

Quote:(([71]Say: Have ye thought, if Allah made night everlasting for you till the Day of Resurrection, who is a god beside Allah who could bring you light? Will ye not then hear?[72] Say: Have ye thought, if Allah made day everlasting for you till the Day of Resurrection, who is a god beside Allah who could bring you night wherein ye rest? Will ye not then see? )) Surah 28

Who is a god other than Allah who can allegedly bring light? How about Yahweh, Ra, Helios, Malina, Amaterasu, Freyr, Apollo, Garuda, Lugh, Liza, Inti, Sunna, Sol Invictus, Tonatiuh, Utu..... There are many many many sun gods over the ages. What evidence do you have that it was Allah who made the sun and not any other God in history?

Quote:Please explain : why you consider human's inventions have been invented by a wise people ? at the same time you consider all these creations in the universe come from unwise " nature " .

Some were invented by wise people, because they understand cause and effect and useful purposes for the effects, but like i demonstrated earlier, many things we use every single day were invented entirely by accident. Nature is no different, the world we see around us, the cosmos that surrounds us, it is all just what is, what happened for (x) number of reasons at (x) time and (x) place, cause and effect.
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woman rights in Islam - by Last_ Ray - October 25, 2009 at 10:17 am
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Darwinian - October 25, 2009 at 10:24 am
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Last_ Ray - October 25, 2009 at 11:28 am
RE: woman rights in Islam - by amw79 - October 25, 2009 at 11:47 am
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Last_ Ray - October 25, 2009 at 12:55 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by amw79 - October 25, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by AngelaRachnid - October 25, 2009 at 1:18 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2009 at 6:05 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Darwinian - October 25, 2009 at 1:33 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by AngelaRachnid - October 25, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by KichigaiNeko - January 12, 2010 at 4:58 am
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Minimalist - October 25, 2009 at 1:53 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Last_ Ray - October 25, 2009 at 1:54 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Darwinian - October 25, 2009 at 1:58 pm
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RE: woman rights in Islam - by AngelaRachnid - October 25, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Last_ Ray - October 25, 2009 at 2:11 pm
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RE: woman rights in Islam - by Violet - October 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm
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RE: woman rights in Islam - by Craveman - October 25, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: woman rights in Islam - by Last_ Ray - October 25, 2009 at 3:37 pm
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RE: woman rights in Islam - by AngelaRachnid - October 27, 2009 at 7:32 pm
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