(April 9, 2013 at 8:11 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 9, 2013 at 9:35 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The prophet of the elephant had a visitation from an angel who revealed the existence of the elephant. The prophet is my Aunt Matilda, who I trust on matters of life and death and who has no previous history of mental illness. Why would she lie about something like that? Why would an angel lie about something like that?
What prophet, what angel they were not mentioned before?
(April 9, 2013 at 11:56 am)Baalzebutt Wrote: Free will absolutely exists. That is the nature of a world WITHOUT a god.
Free will ceases to exist in the presence of a omnipotent, omniscient deity because foreknowledge of action removes our ability to choose another path and thus, cancels free will.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
Because what you say has no sense to it. Unless you have foreknowledge of what will happen there's free will. Many of your fellow nonbelievers would argue there's no free will period. Sounds like you guys need to interpret your book in the same way.
(April 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: Let's play a game. I am going to give you a choice:
1. Choose to accept me and I will give you wonderfulness and beauty, a life of ease and greatness filled with love and awesomeness.
2. Choose not to accept me and I will murder your family, inflict unimaginable pain on your children, and torture you forever by taking away everything that means anything to you and filling your life with the greatest tragedy you can imagine.
Not much of a choice, is it?
This is the deal according to your god. So, I reiterate my point that, in a world with your god, free will does not exist. Because even if we are "free to choose" that choice is being forced upon us which makes it no choice at all.
Your god is like Kim Jung Un only not quite as mature.
"Be gone, satan! For it is written, " 'You shall worship the Lord your God and in Him only serve.'' Jesus reply to satan when tempted.
"Get behind me, satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man."
Jesus reply to Peter when he rebuked Jesus.
Want to guess what my answer to you might be.
You've made claims about God, now it's time for you to prove them, I bet you are going to give me some excuse why you do not need to.
Could be that Kim Jung Un will not be judged as harshly as what might be coming your way.
And what book might that be? Do you mean our holy atheist book? How do you know about that? You are not supposed to know about it. It is secret and for atheists only. Forget you ever heard of it.
Now down to business:
Did you seriously just tell me that I am going to hell? Two words: fuck you
Now, about these claims regarding your god, I will reference the only thing you seem to believe; your bible.
According to your bible, your god is a war monger, a separationist, a bigot, an advocate for slavery, rape and the killing of innocents and is so petulant and whiney that he destroyed all life on earth because his little toys weren't playing nice. He demanded blood sacrifice and fucked over one of his followers on a bet.
So, tell me child, in what way is your god not like a nasty, power hungry little dictator?
By the way, don't fucking preach at me. If you think your little bible verses are going to somehow banish me because I am of the devil, you need to get some professional help.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
