When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

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When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

April 13, 2013 at 11:23 am

(April 13, 2013 at 10:38 am)StatCrux Wrote: How do you know religious belief is fantasy? Are you speaking from personal religious experience and equating it with personal fantasy? I can say that I'm able to differentiate fantasy from religious experience, the two are entirely different in nature. Perhaps you only ever fantasize and therefore have no reference to distinguish the difference, which could account for your conclusion that the two must be the same.

I'm an atheist. Always have been. To me, the gods of every extant religion have not met their burden of proof and thus, functionally, don't exist. Since I can't access religious experiences that other people have, nor have I ever had one of my own, I feel safe in tagging those religious experiences as fantasy. It's not that I'm not open, just that I haven't found anything there.

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When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by TaraJo - February 6, 2013 at 10:20 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Jergus Baca - February 6, 2013 at 11:07 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Shell B - February 6, 2013 at 11:19 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by TaraJo - February 6, 2013 at 11:48 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by festive1 - February 6, 2013 at 11:50 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by paulpablo - February 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by CapnAwesome - April 13, 2013 at 12:11 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2013 at 6:22 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - February 6, 2013 at 12:15 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by ManMachine - February 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 3:06 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Annik - February 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Annik - February 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 4:21 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - February 7, 2013 at 1:59 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 5:22 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Minimalist - February 6, 2013 at 5:15 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 13, 2013 at 3:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 4:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - February 13, 2013 at 4:01 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Gooders1002 - February 19, 2013 at 8:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Question Mark - February 19, 2013 at 9:17 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Severan - February 27, 2013 at 10:37 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by PyroManiac - February 28, 2013 at 11:05 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - March 4, 2013 at 2:25 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 12:57 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - March 5, 2013 at 1:56 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 2:10 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - March 5, 2013 at 3:10 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 5, 2013 at 9:04 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Severan - April 4, 2013 at 6:02 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - March 5, 2013 at 3:25 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Gabriel Syme - March 5, 2013 at 4:16 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - March 5, 2013 at 4:21 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 5, 2013 at 10:18 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:09 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 5, 2013 at 11:59 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 12:10 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 6, 2013 at 12:12 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 6, 2013 at 12:35 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 6, 2013 at 1:01 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - March 13, 2013 at 2:13 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 20, 2013 at 6:06 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by ideologue08 - March 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by ManMachine - March 21, 2013 at 11:19 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by TaraJo - March 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Simon Moon - March 21, 2013 at 6:43 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 2:43 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 21, 2013 at 6:13 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2013 at 7:34 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - March 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 11:06 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - March 24, 2013 at 2:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Cato - March 24, 2013 at 3:22 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 6, 2013 at 5:31 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Paraselene - April 6, 2013 at 5:33 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 4, 2013 at 8:31 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 6, 2013 at 5:34 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - April 6, 2013 at 7:08 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 6, 2013 at 8:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 9, 2013 at 4:08 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 10, 2013 at 5:04 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 10, 2013 at 1:31 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 12, 2013 at 4:40 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 12, 2013 at 5:39 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 13, 2013 at 5:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 13, 2013 at 7:17 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 15, 2013 at 9:44 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 15, 2013 at 11:32 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 17, 2013 at 10:20 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 17, 2013 at 11:09 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 18, 2013 at 9:22 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 18, 2013 at 12:20 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 20, 2013 at 10:22 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 20, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 22, 2013 at 5:15 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 8:36 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - April 13, 2013 at 1:39 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 15, 2013 at 8:50 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 12, 2013 at 10:23 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 8, 2013 at 2:04 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 8, 2013 at 2:32 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 9:27 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 5:50 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Cato - April 4, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 5:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tex - April 8, 2013 at 4:25 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 8:50 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - April 10, 2013 at 9:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 3:07 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by MORETORQUE - April 12, 2013 at 3:59 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 8:53 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 9:55 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 10:13 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 10:24 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 10:38 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 11:23 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 12:00 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 14, 2013 at 9:47 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 16, 2013 at 4:07 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 16, 2013 at 11:52 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:12 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 17, 2013 at 11:54 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 18, 2013 at 1:06 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by LastPoet - April 15, 2013 at 8:53 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - April 16, 2013 at 2:57 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2013 at 9:31 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 18, 2013 at 9:58 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2013 at 10:26 am

Re: RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by frz - April 18, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Re: RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by frz - April 18, 2013 at 5:18 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - April 18, 2013 at 6:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 10:44 am

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