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Poll: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
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Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
(April 15, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(April 15, 2013 at 2:46 pm)festive1 Wrote: Well… There's this:
http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/resou...0-2006.pdf
See that lovely spike of teenage pregnancy from about 1948 until around 1961? Yeah… teen pregnancy rates have fallen since then, in fact they are currently lower than at any other point on the chart. I understand that it was a "simpler time" and teens were forced to marry if they got pregnant, people tended to get married earlier, etc. But still, the rate is lower than it was back in the "good old days." Thank you, birth control.
The mass murder of unborn children are the only reason, if the abortions were added to today's teen pregnancy rate you would definitely have a higher rate. You should be ashamed of trying to deceive others, all things need to be taken into account. Killing children is part of the problem not a solution.
I'll check the rates of teen abortions. But I have a question: You seriously don't think the teen pregnancy rate dropping from a high of 96.3 teen births per 1,000 to 41.5 per 1,000 in 2008 (amongst teens ages 15-19) is solely caused by abortion, do you? What about the factors of birth control and more open sex ed? I don't think all that social outcasting and praying stopped anyone from getting pregnant, birth control and education did.

(April 15, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(April 15, 2013 at 10:56 pm)festive1 Wrote: I was bored and did some Googling. Most crime stats you find look from 1950 to the present, and definitely around the 50's crime was at a low. But check this out: [Image: homicides-1900-20062_zps2369e282.jpg]
sited from: http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/06/16/a-c...n-america/
Violent crime is just a wee bit higher now than it was during the period beginning about 1940 until 1965 or so. Pre-WWII violent crime was about as prevalent as it was in the 80's and 90's and is now once again trending downwards.
Statistics on teen pregnancy and violent crime are recorded history, not your perceptions of some idyllic bygone era, GC.
Your little graph does not look like the one the summerqueen brought up.
Here, I'll help you.
Summer's 1st graph is property crime rates from 1960 to 2010, per 100,000 Americans.
Summer's 2nd graph is Violent Crime Rates by Gender from 1973 to 2003, per 1,000 Americans.
In contrast, the graph I posted is Homicides from 1900 to 2006, per 100,000 Americans.
The graphs do not look alike, because they are measuring different things and on different scales. Summer's graph on violent crime, probably includes assaults, rapes, and the like, as well as being broken down by gender, and on a scale of per 1,000 Americans. My graph is just homicides, not broken down by gender, and on a scale of per 100,000 Americans. They look different because they're measuring apples and oranges. Doesn't change the fact that my graph shows the 1920's homicide rate was almost as prevalent as it was in the 1980's and 90's, and that homicide rates are currently trending downward, though they still remain about 1 point higher than they were in the immediate post-WWII period. During the earlier period the rate was somewhere around 4.5-5 murders per 100,000 Americans, now the rate is around 6 per 100,000.
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RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state? - by festive1 - April 16, 2013 at 8:29 am

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