RE: How long till I'm banned from Christianforums.com?
November 28, 2009 at 10:40 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2009 at 10:52 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 27, 2009 at 9:05 pm)Synackaon Wrote: I wouldn't call it nature, but the fear to embarrassing oneself to the opposite sex (in the case of the mostly heterosexual audience I'd ascribe to be most likely in Christian Forums) is a big motivator to try to hide even on "public" forums. Splitting issues of men and women apart is a rather large and hamfisted access control to give perhaps a large, or maybe small, group of people a way to discuss items that may be offensive, embarrassing, or easily misinterpreted.
I think that the fear of embarrassing the opposite sex is a reason to get socializing with them, not to shy away. But that's just my own personal view, it may not be best for all, or some, or many. If all I'm speaking for is myself then, fine.
If we talk about averages then yes, of course, sexes are different. I am just speaking for myself when I say I don't understand why anyone would want any separation. I accept that it is the case that some/many people do, and if that's what they want, fine. But I really cannot relate.
(November 27, 2009 at 3:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Are you saying that people expressing a preference shouldn't be allowed consultation with someone of the same sex??No, I'm not saying that. Of course not, that's utterly ridiculous.
I'm just saying that I think, on the whole, separation=isolation=not healthy. I think it would be great if we could all learn to embrace our - on average, (stereotypical?) - differences rather than shy away.
Quote:Why aren't there many male midwives/ doula's? Why is this a female dominated profession? I actually think it's discrimination to deny a sexual preference should a person express it. Your political correctness makes you look good, but it's thoughtless.
This has got nothing to do with me 'looking good' or not. I don't care about political correctness. Giving my own thoughts is exactly what I am trying to do. If you dismiss it as "thoughtless", then fine, that is your opinion - but I am also giving you mine. And IMO it is not "thoughtless".
I'm not talking about what jobs sexes are on average best at. I'm talking about how I think on the whole isolation is not a good thing and it would be good if more people, perhaps, could embrace the differences between sexes, and not be 'intimidated' (for want of a better word).
Men seem to make firemen, or so I have heard. I don't know if I've ever even seen a firewoman. But what jobs sexes on the whole are best at, is not what I am talking about.
Quote:Sometimes integration is healthy, and separation unhealthy. I hate separate sex schools. I've seen some strange results!I really don't see what's the problem with socializing with both sexes. I don't see a problem with mixing in groups of your own either, other than I just think "Why do you need to do that?", I myself, at least, just can't personally relate to that.
Quote:Women can't talk about some aspects of sex in front of men if the men aren't going to be sensitive to the woman's perspective. Stereotypical maleness is not to discuss.
I don't think that is just an issue of "offensiveness", but sometimes perhaps one of privacy. I do not know, I am not a woman and I don't have much experience on these issues.
Now, if offensiveness is the only issue in some cases, and if, to take a random selection of one of those hypothetical cases, you're, say, a man who can be sensitive to women - or vice versa, a woman who can understand the group of men... - then there is still of course nothing wrong with separating the sexes if, on the whole, this is what people want; but I can't help but wonder why sometimes, just sometimes, more people can't learn to embrace their differences whether it be a matter of difference of sex, race, or whatever.
EvF