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Islam or Atheism
RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 16, 2013 at 12:24 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(April 16, 2013 at 4:17 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: How about when God said in the Quran that the Universe is expanding
or telling about exact incidents in the future

If you look to the amount of scientific facts and future prediction in Quran, it cannot be fabricated (specially by Mohamed)

Translations of the Qu'ran prior to the discovery of the universe's expansion had quite different wording. Until the discovery, the verses were interpreted differently. Even if the Qu'ran was trying to convey that the universe was expanding, it failed in that as Muslims had nothing to say about an expanding universe until Western science discovered that was the case. A prediction that only makes sense in retrospect wasn't really a prediction at all.
Of course and this is the miracle in it
The exact translate of the verses will say
We created the heaven with power and we are expanding/widing it
At that time no one knew or understood about that, they will pick any close meaning and interpret Quran accordingly
It is only when science discovers it, we will know that Quran talked about it, that is why it will continue in the future as well

A similar example is this verses
2. The Romans have been defeated.

3. In the nearest land (Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious.

4. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these events) is only with Allâh, (before the defeat of the Romans by the Persians, and after the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that Day, the believers (i.e. Muslims) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allâh to the Romans against the Persians) -


It has two miracles, first predicting the future (at that time) by telling that the Romans/bezentians will defeat the Persians
The second one, is telling that the battle field is the undermost land
The exact translation is "The Undermost Land" for a person at that time, this doesn't mean anything so they translated by "Nearby land"
Just recently science discovered that the battlefield is the absolute lowest point on earth (dry land)

Can you explain this?
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Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 9:23 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 10, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:36 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by radorth - April 3, 2013 at 2:18 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Fruity - March 30, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:10 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:41 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:50 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:55 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:55 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by mralstoner - March 31, 2013 at 2:47 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Brakeman - March 31, 2013 at 5:24 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 7:27 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - March 31, 2013 at 7:44 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 5:58 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by archangle - April 2, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 10, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Zen Badger - April 10, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 10, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 16, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 16, 2013 at 4:17 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 16, 2013 at 5:48 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Mister Agenda - April 16, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:17 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 17, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 5:00 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 17, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by LostLocke - April 19, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 27, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 27, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Dragonetti - April 27, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 29, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Dragonetti - April 29, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 17, 2013 at 7:11 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 17, 2013 at 8:19 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by LostLocke - April 16, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by LostLocke - April 17, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by justin - April 17, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 17, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 20, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - April 20, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by downbeatplumb - April 20, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 20, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 20, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - April 20, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Dragonetti - April 25, 2013 at 6:31 am

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