When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

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When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

April 17, 2013 at 11:09 am

(April 17, 2013 at 10:20 am)enrico Wrote: If you think this is a fantasy then you should demonstrate that body and mind are connected together for ever and are a unique realty.

Errr, no. You are telling me that the body is a vessel for an entity that can (and does?) escape it at some point. You have to demonstrate that this is the case. I am going to assume that you cannot, and that you will explain that you cannot by claiming that it's not part of "physical real(i)ty." And we'll be back at square one.

"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould

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When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by TaraJo - February 6, 2013 at 10:20 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Jergus Baca - February 6, 2013 at 11:07 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Shell B - February 6, 2013 at 11:19 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by TaraJo - February 6, 2013 at 11:48 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by festive1 - February 6, 2013 at 11:50 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by paulpablo - February 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by CapnAwesome - April 13, 2013 at 12:11 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2013 at 6:22 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - February 6, 2013 at 12:15 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by ManMachine - February 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 3:06 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Annik - February 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Annik - February 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 4:21 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - February 7, 2013 at 1:59 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Nine - February 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - February 6, 2013 at 5:22 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Minimalist - February 6, 2013 at 5:15 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 13, 2013 at 3:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 4:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - February 13, 2013 at 4:01 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Gooders1002 - February 19, 2013 at 8:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Question Mark - February 19, 2013 at 9:17 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Severan - February 27, 2013 at 10:37 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by PyroManiac - February 28, 2013 at 11:05 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - March 4, 2013 at 2:25 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 12:57 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - March 5, 2013 at 1:56 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 2:10 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - March 5, 2013 at 3:10 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 5, 2013 at 9:04 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Severan - April 4, 2013 at 6:02 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - March 5, 2013 at 3:25 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Gabriel Syme - March 5, 2013 at 4:16 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Anomalocaris - March 5, 2013 at 4:21 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 5, 2013 at 10:18 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:09 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 5, 2013 at 11:59 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 12:10 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 6, 2013 at 12:12 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 6, 2013 at 12:35 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by genkaus - March 6, 2013 at 1:01 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - March 13, 2013 at 2:13 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 20, 2013 at 6:06 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by ideologue08 - March 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by ManMachine - March 21, 2013 at 11:19 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by TaraJo - March 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Simon Moon - March 21, 2013 at 6:43 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 2:43 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 21, 2013 at 6:13 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2013 at 7:34 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - March 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 11:06 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by jstrodel - March 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - March 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - March 24, 2013 at 2:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Cato - March 24, 2013 at 3:22 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 6, 2013 at 5:31 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Silver - April 6, 2013 at 5:33 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 4, 2013 at 8:31 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 6, 2013 at 5:34 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - April 6, 2013 at 7:08 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 6, 2013 at 8:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 9, 2013 at 4:08 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 10, 2013 at 5:04 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 10, 2013 at 1:31 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 12, 2013 at 4:40 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 12, 2013 at 5:39 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 13, 2013 at 5:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 13, 2013 at 7:17 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 15, 2013 at 9:44 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 15, 2013 at 11:32 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 17, 2013 at 10:20 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 17, 2013 at 11:09 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 18, 2013 at 9:22 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 18, 2013 at 12:20 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 20, 2013 at 10:22 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tonus - April 20, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 22, 2013 at 5:15 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 8:36 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - April 13, 2013 at 1:39 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 15, 2013 at 8:50 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 12, 2013 at 10:23 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 8, 2013 at 2:04 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by GordonHide - April 8, 2013 at 2:32 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 9:27 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 5:50 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Cato - April 4, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 5:58 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Tex - April 8, 2013 at 4:25 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 8:50 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Whateverist - April 10, 2013 at 9:45 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 3:07 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by MORETORQUE - April 12, 2013 at 3:59 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 8:53 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 9:55 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 10:13 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 10:24 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 10:38 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 11:23 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 12:00 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 14, 2013 at 9:47 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 16, 2013 at 4:07 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 16, 2013 at 11:52 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:12 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 17, 2013 at 11:54 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Esquilax - April 18, 2013 at 1:06 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by LastPoet - April 15, 2013 at 8:53 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Angrboda - April 16, 2013 at 2:57 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2013 at 9:31 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by Little Rik - April 18, 2013 at 9:58 am

RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?' - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2013 at 10:26 am

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