(April 17, 2013 at 11:54 am)Esquilax Wrote: The part where you leap from "time has a beginning" to "therefore it must have a creator, and it must be MY pet creator god!" despite not knowing a damn thing about the circumstances of a pre-time universe,I got that you accepted that time had a start
the need for a creator is very obvious, as the state before time must be static and after time is dynamic
Static is the opposite of dynamic
A doer must involve to change it
If you are going to reject that, then you need to prove that logic may not apply
i.e. a logical paradox may exist.
Until you do that, you have no argument.
Quote:Just calm down, sit tight, and wait for science to do the workThere is no science involved in the proof, it is by logic which is much stronger than science.