On Non-belief

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The proof of my religion...is confirmed through logic.

No it's not. The OP makes a logical conclusion that God should reveal himself. This hasn't been refuted, therefore meaning you in actual fact worship an evil god or a non-existent god. Take your pick.

I have already demonstrated that God does reveal himself by the necessary means. There could hypothetically be more direct means in order to reveal, but they are unnecessary. If you don't want to actually evaluate my response with any other comment than "No idea where you're getting this pseudo-theology or why it should even be considered" (post #74) that's fine, but don't assume you are right in your assertion simply because you don't like my counter-argument.

I'm using infallible to speak of what it teaches. Ya, some numbers are definitely off and multiple variations of stories are sometimes told, but that which is to be derived from the text is "always correct".

But not all of what it teaches, either. I mean, you don't take what your god teaches about slavery to be at all true, nor his urging you to execute people for nonbelief.

Be honest: when you say "derived from the text," what you really mean is "the passages that I like and that aren't too politically incorrect," no?

I don't believe King Saul was 1 year old when he became king and reigned for 2 years. A scribe left out some numbers. I don't have to abstain from eating pork, types of birds, shellfish, animals killed improperly, or other things because I am not under Mosaic law. I will say that everything in Mosaic law is either good or neutral, and this includes the slavery laws, the laws concerning rape, death penalty, and others.

When I say "derived from the text", I mean exegesis rather than "the passages that I like and that aren't too politically incorrect" (which is eisegesis).

I have no problem with slavery. I do have a problem with racism and cruelty, however (which is actually condemned in the same book, fyi).

The proof of my religion begins in history and is confirmed through logic.

It is only confirmed by threads of logic which originate with the unfounded and never-demonstrated assumption that your religion is true and that your God exists.

Also, that is precisely what our Muslims say about the Qu'ran when we ask them.

I'm still not so convinced that you know what logic is, Ryan. I'm also pretty certain you use the word "assumption" way to much. We're assuming God in this thread. Really, we're only debating on salvation theory.