RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
April 22, 2013 at 9:10 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 9:41 am by A_Nony_Mouse.)
(April 10, 2013 at 7:39 am)Aractus Wrote:(April 10, 2013 at 7:30 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Can you bring a reference that Islam promotes/allows this?No I can't - because I didn't say that Islam promotes or allows it. Read what I did say.
Can I provide a reference to what I said? Yes:
- [i]A Saudi man who raped his five-year-old daughter and tortured her to death has been sentenced to pay "blood money" to the mother after having served a short jail term, according to activists.
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Was this in a civil or a religious court? And if in the former what does it have to do with Islam?
Civil court is what separation of mosque and state is all about.
(April 22, 2013 at 8:13 am)Consilius Wrote: ...
All Abrahamic religions are in favor of equal rights for women. Why they are treated differently (you say unfairly) is because God appreciates men and women for their differences, so they both have different roles in religion, like priesthood and child-bearing. I don't know if you consider one of these roles better than the other.
How are rights equal when the father can only treat daughters as wholly owned property? How are rights equal when, according to the Eden story fully adult women who happen to become wives also become the subjects of their husbands?
And before you try the tired, old, obvious response, every wedding ceremony should have a coin toss to see who is in charge.
Rather which idiot invented the idea that anyone had to be in charge?
Quote:So instead, rather than persecute genders, religions make them more pronounced. Men and women have unique roles in the world and they complement each other to make it wholesome.
It is incredible in this day and age with all the sources of information that there are people who are so ignorant of the world that they can say such things.
(April 22, 2013 at 8:35 am)festive1 Wrote: Con, you need to read the thread. MS has clearly stated that women are worth 1/2 of a man, they should be allowed to be beaten by their husbands, men can have 4 wives, and is still trying to convince people that its a-okay for a 40 year old man to marry a 9 year old girl. Read what ground has been covered before jumping to conclusions. MS isn't your brother because he believes in an Abrahamic religion, he's a sick, twisted man.
If one wishes to make the argument that a woman is worth only half a man because of half and inheritance we must continue the argument and note they are worth nothing at all in Judaism and Christianity as they are not required to have any inheritance.
We can make similar comparisons regarding their value as witnesses to note the same total worthlessness of women.
